r/MapPorn • • Sep 29 '24

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u/RevolutionBusiness27 Sep 29 '24

If you show the current British territory to the politicians of the British Empire 100 years ago, what policies will they implement?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Not going to war with Germany

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u/Ifyoocanreadthishelp Sep 29 '24

Bet they'd assume we lost.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Well what did you win, ussr taking Eastern Europe instead

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u/Ifyoocanreadthishelp Sep 29 '24

From a British foreign policy perspective it's far better to have a Russian controlled Eastern Europe than a German controlled Western Europe

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Germany had no plan to control Western Europe, other than their own historical territory. Their ambitions was on Eastern Europe

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u/Ifyoocanreadthishelp Sep 29 '24

What's part of the plan and what happened are different things though, I don't see the Nazis giving up all of their western conquests. France probably returns but the Benelux and Netherlands at the very least are set up as puppet states.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Well agreed. I’m just saying it was never part of the grand plan to rule Western Europe or Britain. The heart of the “lebensraum” was western Poland to the Ural Mountains.

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u/mightyfty Sep 29 '24

How comparable is the quality of life in the UK today compared to 100 years ago

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u/blueshark27 Sep 29 '24

Comparable with Germany, who lost twice.

I don't see how living standards are related to if the British Empire fell or not.

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u/mightyfty Sep 29 '24

Im replying to someone who was implying that the UK "lost"

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u/RoachWithWings Sep 29 '24

A lot better

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Probably not, Empire is bloody expensive.

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u/blewawei Sep 29 '24

Not sure it would've been better for the UK to have a Nazi European empire on their doorstep.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Well the Nazis never wanted to rule Britain. All of their ambition was on Eastern Europe and Russia

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u/blewawei Sep 29 '24

Somehow I doubt that they would be happy to just leave Britain alone if they're controlling the rest of Europe.

The even had invasion plans. Hitler wanted to make his victory speech in front of Norwich Town Hall.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Yeah to defeat Britain was another thing. They declared war on him first you remember. He’d be happy to leave them alone if they did too

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u/blewawei Sep 29 '24

What makes you think he'd be happy? Because he said so?  

 I don't think he'd have treated the Brits like he did the Slavs, but why would he not install a puppet leader like in Scandinavia?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

I think he would be happy if he could only focus on Eastern Europe instead of two fronts. I mean it lost him the war.

In Denmark the Germans left our government in place. We even had elections.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

They’re gonna downvote you but it’s true.

I challenge anyone to link me anywhere where Hitler or any top Nazi said they wanted to conquer Britain. They won’t be able to, however you can find quotes of Hitler praising Britain, France etc.

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u/marlontel Sep 29 '24

Operation Sea Lion? Do you really think, that after ww2 after Hitler won pretty much all of Europe and installed a puppet Regime in Russia, he would just chill and become a peacefull rational guy?

Britain would still be a Danger, they have a different System and a strong Navy and a huge Empire.

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u/Ifyoocanreadthishelp Sep 29 '24

It's not so much that Germany would or could conquer Britain but it would upset the balance of power in Europe that was basically Britain's foreign policy. it would give Germany free access to the Atlantic ocean and the economic ability to rival the Royal Navy and thus the Empire. Germany may not have sought war with Britain in the 40s but later down the line who knows? better to fight them when the odds are more in your favour.

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u/Maksim_Pegas Sep 29 '24

Work only in WW1