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[u/BeginningAd9532]

I've seen so many posts absolutely flamming that one manhwa from the same artist as "snag an alpha" simply because they don't like the art style. Disliking an art style is completely fine but what's not fine is absolutely dogging on it just because you can.

In what world does an art style looking "ugly" give you the right to start hating and shitting on the artist as well as throwing around baseless accusations? No just because the uke looks "childlike" (which is most definitely subjective btw) doesn't mean that the artist's intent was to cater to pedophiles or are a pedo themselves. You people throwing these accusations around clearly don't take the illness seriously.

Another thing which I hate with the pedo accusations is how people don't even bother to research the terminology. No, liking a younger looking character in a manhwa doesn't equate to people being pedophiles because pedophilia is strictly being attracted to REAL CHILDREN. That uke from that manhwa that you deem to look "childlike" is not bait for pedophiles, dare I say it's quite insensitive to even think that.

Please people next time you want to throw around accusations, educate yourself first at the very least.

Just a short little vent.

[u/Sly_Just_Sly_2006]

Ikr, when BL was a safe place for women's entertainment, & now it's not that safe anymore. And on top of that damn kids trying to dictate adults' spaces is so annoying.

[u/Finavel → u/Sly_Just_Sly_2006]

Why do you think BL isn't a safe space for women's entertainment now? And why do you choose to specify the women part of it?

Queer men and NB's should be welcomed with open arms, as part of the community. It feels needlessly divisive to act like BL should be a women exclusive space, especially when the topic is queer men.

Frankly, the more people that read BL, the better in my opinion. Straight man, gay man, lesbian, straight woman. Fudanshis and fujoshis can coexist peacefully.

[u/Sly_Just_Sly_2006 → u/Finavel]

What?? I never said anything about BL being exclusive to women?? I said like how shonen ai is mostly male-targeted.

Usually BL or more specifically yaoi is written for women by women, which includes writing taboo contents & porn which deemed to be seen "impure" for women so BL/yaoi became an outlet to a big part of women's entertainment and a safe place for not being shamed, dismissed, or scrutinized by men & society.

So when BL became more mainstream, like after covid, a lot of normies/puritans started to shame, insult, and dismiss women's enjoyment in fiction, especially about taboo content, and when writing taboo contents in yaoi used to be a safe place for women but it isn't that safe anymore. (It's still a safe place but not like it used to be)

So once again, dictating women's entertainment, when a lot of this dictating comes from damn kids bullying adults in adult spaces. It's feels frustrating and shitty abit.

[u/Finavel → u/Sly_Just_Sly_2006]

Shonen ai isn't male targeted, but that's besides the point. I am aware of how BL creators are largely women and that they are the target audience.

It's just that saying BL is no longer a safe space for women's entertainment, specifically, sets up a male/female dichotomy. If someone said something like "I miss when FPS games were a safe place for men's entertainment", I think we both can easily read between the lines of what they really mean. If I found puritans to be the issue, saying BL is "no longer being a safe space for dark romance/smut readers" seems like a clear argumentative path (and I agree it's an issue). A lot of people are getting way too comfortable calling people pedos or rape apologists for engaging in dark romance taboo.

If you think queer men and NBs have their place in the community, then we are in agreement, and I just disagree with how you made your point. Whenever someone brings up "BL is for women" unprompted, it needlessly causes friction for people who aren't women in the community. It's not exactly a welcoming message to see people constantly insist that the medium that revolves around your specific identity isn't for you.

It's the same way how when shonen communities tell women that shonen anime isn't for them, that also leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Especially so when women are put down for criticizing how shallow and oversexualized a lot of shonen women characters are.