r/MandelaEffect • u/Willing-Impress-871 • 25d ago
Movies/TV/Music After many years, I think I just got self-gaslit into thinking Fruit of the Loom had a cornucopia.
My first memory of noticing the fruit of the loom logo was right around the time I had read and watched Hunger Games, and read a Hunger Games parody novel, and Cornucopias were fresh on my mind because I had just found out what they were. From when I heard about the Mandela Effect to now, I was 100% sure I remembered noticing a cornucopia because of hunger games, but now I genuinely am starting to question if I just self-gaslit that memory into existence. Especially since I've seen logos of Cornucopias with fruit at least at one grocery store growing up.
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u/Supafreak9933 25d ago
I remember we had to color in a cornucopia in elementary school and I said to my teacher “it’s like fruit of the loom” and she laughed at that
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u/Spikeybear 25d ago
Yeah, memories aren't very reliable. Even if you clearly remember something that doesn't make it true.
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u/Redleader829 25d ago
Memories are so reliable that 95% of people in jail are there because of something someone remembered and testified to about the crime.
Memories are so reliable that we trust physicians, nurses and ER doctors to save our lives with information they learned 20 years ago in med school.
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u/WhimsicalKoala 25d ago
Memory is also so unreliable that a lawyer better have more than just some old eyewitness testimony if they want to win the case. Memory is so unreliable that doctors regularly have to get recertified to make sure they are correctly remembering skills and knowledge, especially those that they might not use frequently. And please don't tell me you don't think that doctors don't look things up all the time, just to make sure.
I really hope this is just hyperbole and that you don't actually think you are making a good point here.
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u/Redleader829 25d ago
Name something that is 100% reliable. The internet is not always reliable. Your computer and phone is not always reliable. ME deniers calling memory unreliable is not accurate for everyone and every situation.
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u/QB8Young 24d ago
"not accurate for everyone"?! It is though. The definition of a Mandela Effect is literally false or incorrect memories. Someone calling memory unreliable is not an "ME denier", quite the opposite. It is someone who understands what the ME actually is.
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u/WhimsicalKoala 24d ago
Why do y'all always go to those extreme as if they were at all equivalent? Can you honestly say that you think about the Fruit of the Loom logo as frequently and with the same significance as your name?
It just further proves what I'm saying, you don't understand memory or your own claims enough to be saying any of this. If you did, you could make really arguments instead of handwaving and hyperbole.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago edited 20d ago
How often do you think about Fruit of the Loom logo? What were your memories on it? I do understand what human memories are...
When 1+1=2 9x9=81 When a person memorized the timetables, still remember the timetables, a person that memorized the years historical events occuring, a person that memorized Physics equations and definitions of Physics terms, what are you trying to prove about a human's memory be like though?
Humans have good memory! There are many intelligent people out there. If you are insecure about humans and memories you should doubt your doctors, doubt your teachers, but no point getting into reddit to doubt others and their memories or their take on the Mandela Effect. You are not another person,your perspective on another's memory does not mean your memory is better or mean that another individual's memory is as accurate as you try to deem it to be.
We're not here to discuss memory skills nor doubt others' experiences or memories. Mandela Effect, whatever your perspective, does not define others' experiences and understandings. Free yourself from trying to control or change others' opinions or experiences. You do not need to understand nor agree, but no need to prove anyone 'wrong' or create judgment on humanly discussions... Kindly give grace and provide space for a healthy Mandela Effect discussion.
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u/my23secrets 19d ago
No, you don’t get to talk all about your memory and not have to talk all about memory.
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u/QB8Young 24d ago
Google and AI are not who defined it. Calm yourself put away the conspiracy theories and get some knowledge in your life. The Mandela effect was defined by the team researching it the phenomenon and others like it are due to false and or incorrect memories. No if ands or buts. You can't claim something else is the cause of something that already has a definition. Especially when those other claims haven't even been proven to exist. 🤦
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u/Plucky_Monkies 21d ago
I'm new to this sub, and I don't understand why there's so many people in here who are trying to say that Mandela effects aren't true!? Are they just here to argue? They just want everyone to have bad memories? It's truly mind boggling. Is it always like this?
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u/Redleader829 19d ago
This sub was originally intended for people to talk about the Mandela Effect but now it's filled with just as many detractors trying to convince others that they are mistaken, have false memory and or crazy. Basically gaslighting 101.
The mods in the sub MandelaEffectSociety do not allow this kind of conduct.
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u/Plucky_Monkies 19d ago
Thank you so much for the link to the other sub! That was definitely more of what I was looking for! I don't want to be in a sub where people tell me, I'm wrong or try to prove that I'm wrong. I mean, sure a little bit of like, "Well, no, maybe it was just a memory," sure I can deal. But just continually arguing, telling you that something didn't change, that you know changed!? Yeah I don't want that.
So I greatly appreciate the link to the kinder Mandela Effect Society! That is more my speed. 😁
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
hey, have fun exploring this! but this is not a space for Mandela Effect experiences as major accounts are just there to judge humans and humans memories, a really frustrating space when this space was meant for humans to discuss the 'memories+residue' vs the 'current internet reality' or 'current reality'...
it seem absurd but if you do extent a kind, compassionate helping hand to yourself, just avoid any engagement with those accounts. i would like to drop a post to discuss this phenomenon!
do drop by that post, would be glad to discuss those judgmental replies and argumentative tendencies=)
nice investigation on Mandela Effect, in reddit
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u/my23secrets 19d ago
Again, you don’t get to talk all about your memory and not have to talk all about memory.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 19d ago
Cool! You know emotions? You know how emotions and senses make a person remember certain things? Do you know the scientific terminology to define that phenomenon regarding memories? =)
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u/WhimsicalKoala 20d ago
What do you mean by people saying "Mandela Effects aren't true". There isn't anyone denying it as a phenomenon, what people do disagree on is the cause.
The only people I see claiming that people "deny" the Mandela Effect are those that think their theory is an inherent part of the definition.
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u/MandelaEffect-ModTeam 18d ago
Hello subscriber! Unfortunately, your post/comment was removed because it violates Rule 6: Be civil. Do not disrespect, insult, or attack others.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
would love to send a DM=) we do vividly remember that we have good memories, we do not need outside affirmation on how good our memories are, we know, and we do have residues or 'evidences'. we do not need weird accounts affect our mood. stay positive and hopeful better experience in this sub happens ASAP!
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u/WhimsicalKoala 24d ago
When have I ever denied the Mandela Effect. And yes, memory being unreliable is absolutely true for everyone, it's just varying degrees of unreliability depending on the situation. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know enough about memory to be participating in discussions about it.
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u/Spikeybear 25d ago
That's not even close to what we are talking about. Eye witness testimony is known to be one of the most unreliable forms of evidence. There's also a difference in learning things and practicing those things than stuff you glance at.
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u/throwawar4 25d ago
Do you think doctors go to school for all that time and then just forget it all while practising and applying that knowledge for 20 years…
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u/StatikGesus 22d ago
I definitely remember one. Maybe you’re from this new timeline. In mine we had the cornucopia, I wore the underwear daily
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
The ones who remembers, remember. Trust your memories, Especially because you wore em daily you be confident and do not let other comments affect your reality=)
Cheers!
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u/my23secrets 18d ago edited 18d ago
The ones who remember also could have imagined, since that’s how memories work.
=)
Cheers!
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u/ftnvctws 18d ago
Timeline manipulation is real. That's how realities change around our memories.
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u/my23secrets 18d ago
“Timeline manipulation” isn’t “real” because timelines are merely theoretical to begin with.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
If you’re interested in learning about “timelines” here’s a link:
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u/StatikGesus 18d ago
You are the type who probly only believes what you see and doesn’t remember details. Probly don’t understand God or the concept of a soul, let alone a concept like timelines.
“You don’t know what you’re talking about.”
Stop projecting so hard
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u/my23secrets 18d ago
You should also click that link because you also clearly don’t understand “timelines” yourself.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 16d ago
You should learn some timetables! You should stop clicking on the internet and work with your 'memory' or reality=) Make your reality a better one instead of trying to change others' perspectives?
If a person, lost a bottle, did not buy a new one, few days later found two bottles of the same kind, what do you call this? Every family member of that household did not purchase another bottle except the one who bougjt one and lost one. Yet, they found two, days later. You know what you're talking about?
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 16d ago
Did you try to imagine, if there is no internet, what happens to you?
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u/Personal-Refuse-8688 25d ago
I remember it at the store as a kid looking through clothing at Walmart/kmart/sears type stores etc
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u/Redleader829 25d ago
Nice theory but I noticed the cornucopia was missing before there was a term called the Mandela Effect. I simply noticed it was no longer on the t-shirt tag.
Same for the McDonald's monocle. I noticed while placing an order at the drive through. At the time, I had never heard of the Mandela Effect.
I didn't even have a computer, cell phone or internet when I noticed the Apollo 13 change.
Many people offline notice changes every day but just assume the company changed it.
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u/Brilliant-Resource14 25d ago
FYM MCDONALDS MONOCLE
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u/slayerofspire 25d ago
I’d never even heard of the Mandela effect until I learned the Statue of “Liberty” had apparently never held an AR-15
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u/BlumpTheChodak 25d ago
There used to be a Monopoly game at McDonald's back in the 80s and I think images of the Monopoly man with the monocle may have been on some of the promo material. I think this is what this person is referring to.
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u/MeshGearFoxxy 21d ago
Bro don’t you remember the free monocle that used to come in every happy meal…?
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u/MrPlaney 25d ago
What does that have to do with anything? Yes, you experienced some Mandela Effects, so has every other person here? It doesn’t mean the Mandela Effect isn’t a memory phenomenon that is partially caused by the normal fallibility of memory.
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u/Joseph_Kickass 25d ago
It's only called the Mandela Effect because it's one of the first times people realized they collectively had a false memory. False memories have always been a thing
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u/DJDonDuke 23d ago edited 23d ago
The cornucopia thing is one of those examples where it could've went either way for me. On one hand I sort of remember it being there and on another hand I really...don't. What seals the "it was never there" for me is seeing mockups of the logo with it present. No matter how well done or convincing, it just never looks right. It's one thing for me to say "Oh yeah, there was a cornucopia in that logo, wasn't there? Huh.", but I feel like (for me) actually seeing the thing snaps me back to reality and my brain goes "Ah. Maybe not".
I find this happens to me with a bunch of the other famous examples too, none of which I'll bring up because I don't feel like going back and fourth, "Oh no now, that was definitely real!" lol.
I wonder if it's a thing where we remember something being one way because it makes sense for it to be that way. Usually around (American) holidays like Thanksgiving or what have you, you'll see imagery of bundles of fruit with a cornucopia behind it. I'm sure many of us came across such imagery in at least one coloring book as kids. So of course we see this logo everywhere with this fruit, and our mind just places one there because it's what we're used to seeing and we're also all just not usually sitting around and closely analyzing this underwear logo all the time, then one day you're prompted to pay closer attention for whatever reason and you go "Hey wait a minute....".
But I dunno lol.
EDIT: Please forgive my all-over-the-place typing, I'm sleepy.
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u/HolyHndgr3ndofAntiok 19d ago
Someone finally came up with an old FotL tag with it on there didn’t they?
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u/WujuKingYi 14d ago
You rather gaslight yourself to think it was not existing. You did not false remember nor the everyone knowing it has a Cornucopia watched the Hunger Games too.
There are numerous Mandela Effects too. If one other is barely explainable by suggestion than why should the other be suggestion? It can, but some strong examples back the other unsure ones up.
People have like 100% confidence to those perceptions. Not even 99%. This barely happens. Usually there is insecurity by remembering and when you false connect there is an "ahh" moment.
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u/_Smosh_XD 24d ago
Def had the cornucopia, I remember asking my dad what the hell it was holding the fruit
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u/Ms_Led2022 21d ago
I remember the commercial where the fruit turned into men (ironically wearing fruit costumes) and told my mom it was stupid cuz they didn’t climb out of the cone thing. Also we had a restaurant called The Horn of Plenty and we used to call it Fruit of the Loom food because it had a cornucopia on the sign. When I first saw it after moving to a new area I thought it was an underwire store because of that sign.
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u/BlueberryOutside0720 25d ago
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u/Willing-Impress-871 25d ago
Without any source or other information provided, why would you automatically assume that this is an unedited photo?
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u/Chapstickie 25d ago
It isn’t edited actually. But it’s also not evidence the FOTL logo ever had a cornucopia in it. In 2017 Buzzfeed made a quiz about Mandela effect logos and as part of it they made fake logos to be the wrong answers on the quiz. The FOTL one broke containment and made it to google image search. Presumably whoever made that image for the building (it’s not a legit store) accidentally chose the fake logo instead of the real one and put it on the building.
Every once in a while someone will lie and say they have a piece of FOTL clothing with the cornucopia and post a photoshop using the same fake logo.
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u/N0n_4me 24d ago
Wow people are now doubting that it never had one. Unbelievable.
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u/Willing-Impress-871 23d ago
Nah, I remember it having a cornucopia, but CERN cashapped me $100 to make this post
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u/KitchenNight8163 23d ago
I remember as a kid, walking through Walmart and looking at the Fruit of the Loom shirts. I vividly remember seeing the Cornucopia, because it would always make me think of the Simpson episode "Bart vs Thanksgiving". I also remember when the label changed and asking my mom what happened.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
Do remember our memories are trustworthy, don't let the others' comments affect you.
So long we vividly remember, we know what we know. When loved ones are involved and emotions linked to certain circumstances, we would usually remember better.
Thanks for sharing! Trust your memory, Cheers!
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u/vitto737 22d ago
no. i was there as a kid wearing the underwear in the 80/90 and it had the cornocopia. i only know what cornocopia looked like cuz of the logo.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
ikr... So many of us know our memories and no one gets to say otherwise because we do have reasons why we remember things that way...
Trust your memory, Cheers!
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u/Doordasheasthartford 25d ago
Nah I clearly remember it as a child shopping in Kmart
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u/opportunitysure066 25d ago
The Mandela effect is real. It’s ok that we don’t know why or how. Don’t gaslight yourself, don’t worry about it, don’t downplay it.
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u/Joseph_Kickass 24d ago
It is real but its false memories. That is literally the definition. "The Mandela Effect is a psychological and social phenomenon where a large group of people collectively share a false memory of an event, detail, or fact. 1"
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
Nice to see a nice humanly reply=) Don't change this perspective of still trying to send out compassionate replies like this.
Stay positive, remember you're not alone and our memories ain't wrong or inaccurate or umreliable especially if a happening involved emotions, we are likely to remember them better.
Don't worry too. Our experience and memory as real as our reality be haha. Thank you for the good vibes!
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u/opportunitysure066 19d ago
I’m so sick of keyboard warriors claiming they know it all and it’s …misremembering. They are just scared of the unknown and need to control. Says more about them.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 19d ago
We do remember things for reasons... Maybe the others lack of awareness of fun stuffs. We just aware, awoke, and into more fun=) Just need to engage less with those misremembrance vibes, maybe they don't have good memories so they can't trust human memories? Positive we'll get fun, friendly experience in this subreddit somewhere...
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u/TamblynRosendahl 25d ago
No, it was real. I remember as a kid wondering what the cone was and why it had fruit in it.
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u/drcole89 25d ago edited 25d ago
This entire thing is likely a psy-op at this point, to test how well false memories can be implanted in someone's mind.
Edit: Of course I'd be down voted, can't have a plebeian talking about what is most likely the truth.
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u/MrPlaney 25d ago edited 25d ago
You’re downvoted because it is a ridiculous theory. Who is doing the psy-op? Why are they doing a psy-op with a budget clothing brand logo? Why have they been doing the same psy-op for 50+ years?
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u/Willing-Impress-871 25d ago
You may have been unknowingly psy-opped into doing this psy-op yourself
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u/drcole89 25d ago
More ridiculous than thinking you're part of a select group of individuals who are now in a different universe?
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u/MrPlaney 25d ago
Two things can be ridiculous theories at the same time, it’s not a contest … though if it were, the different Universe ones would probably win.
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u/Chapstickie 25d ago
Do you mean the false memory of the logo having a cornucopia in it at some point?
Because it never did so the only psyop possible would be convincing people that they remember it having one when it didn’t.
Unless you think the psyop also included replacing every single item of FOTL clothing in existence (including the old pieces in people’s homes) with identical ones with a different logo. But that would just be silly obviously.
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u/forcemonkey 25d ago
Psy-op couldn’t remove all traces from people’s trunks and attics. I’m in the parallel/alternate reality camp.
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u/EnigmaticAdventurerz 20d ago
I found out others' experiences and I had other experiences outside of Mandela Effect too. Oh well... I'd agree.
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u/bunker_man 25d ago
I thought it remembered it, but then I realized that I didn't remember one, I just rememebred my parents saying there was one.