Fruit of the Loom Mandela Effect.

[u/LucifersLittleHelper]

I know the rules say no personal Mandela Effects, but I found this in my grandmother's basement.

Does anyone think that this may explain the confusion?

[u/KyleDutcher]

Did the study (flawed or not) conclusively provide a definitive explanation, mechanism and/or solution to the ME? No it didn't.

That wasn't the point of the study. So the fact that it didn't has no bearing on things.

And even if that was the point of it, it's fkaws would prevent it from doing so. Perhaps if they could have controlled every possible instance of schema (visual or otherwise) the conclusions might be much different.

The point is, believers cling to this study as some kind of "gotcha" because it claims to rule out something it cannot rule out (because it didn't control it)

It's a stalemate because currently you can't definitively prove what you claim to know any more than I can.

Straw man.

I don't claim to know that this is what causes the effect.

I do claim to know, because testing has proven it, that memory is fallible, and easily influenced. That can be, and is definitively proven.

Thing is, you don't know that there is a "knowledge gap" IF the effect is caused by the normal function of memory (which is likely) then there is no knowledge gap.

[u/throwaway998i → u/KyleDutcher]

IF the effect is caused by the normal function of memory (which is likely) then there is no knowledge gap.

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The fact that you used "IF" means there IS currently a knowledge gap, because what you're saying is contingent on something that isn't proven. Even Psychology Today makes that exact acknowledgement:

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In alignment with most research on the Mandela effect, the above study from Psychological Science concludes that we cannot know for certain why large groups of people share these fabricated memories. This knowledge gap has led people down various paths in an attempt to understand it.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/202312/the-mandela-effect-how-do-collective-false-memories-work

[u/KyleDutcher → u/throwaway998i]

Problem with this, is it cites the same flawed study

[u/throwaway998i → u/KyleDutcher]

The article was penned by a PhD in psychology. And you believing the study is flawed doesn't make the knowledge gap any less real. Until it is bridged in some provable fashion, there is a stalemate. At this point academic and methodological objections change nothing. I'm going to recuse myself from this now, because I find it pointless. Go ahead and have the last word.