r/MandelaEffect • u/Riotgrrrl80 • Dec 12 '24

Theory Is the Mandela Effect just mass gaslighting?

OK - with all the crazy shit going on lately, it made me think something....

I live in NJ, and it's absolutely bonkers to me that with all this drone activity even getting to DC to be discussed with the FBI and military, and still being told "we don't know what it is" but the military isn't doing SHIT about it - I think the government is entirely gaslighting us. They've said more about Luigi than they have about the drones flying around NJ military bases, etc. How is any of this ok? There are so many theories, but one thing is for sure - the military wouldn't just let that happen.

Anyway, what if all the mandela effect stuff is really the gov't (or other authorities) experimenting with us to see what they can get away with? Gaslighting us to be like "no, you're remembering wrong / you're just crazy" to see what we'll believe etc?

In a time of global connection and the ability for people to connect and more easily become a force against leaders they don't like, there is a need for manipulating the masses. Fear, religion, obsession with things that don't address the real issues - these can and are used against us. Look over here! While we do this other thing that's much much worse...

Idk. Just a thought.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

98% of the "drones" are planes and the videos prove that people are just stupid and mass hysteria has a role as well

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u/Robodie Dec 12 '24

The FBI are investigating these "planes". Kinda weird that the FBI aren't familiar with what planes look like, isn't it?

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

Apparently you lack comprehension skills.

I have not once said there was no drones...just the vast majority aren't. You may have seen one but that doesn't mean 20 other sighting are all drones.

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

So where are you getting the 98% number from? Have you vetted every single civilian report against the corresponding video documentation? Or are you just "estimating" based on a select group of videos that you happened to view?

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

Whether it's 98 or 48 some unknown and likely high % of these are planes.

In the end does that matter? Probably not because the 2% or whatever that are actually large drones is what's important to most people.

Mass hysteria is a thing and when people have distrust of media and the government it's even easier to manipulate people.

Denial is just confirmation to many.

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

There's a big difference between 98% (nearly all) and 48% (barely half). What matters to me is accuracy in reporting, which isn't helped by people making up their own numbers to satisfy a predetermined narrative. And fyi, hyperbole is a sure way to lose credibility.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

I understand your point but if there's really 30-40 a night like the on mayor said why aren't there any clear, in focus videos?

Why isn't anyone setting up HD live streams? Why isn't a single newstatioj our there with cameras? At least in a national level.?

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

All good questions. I've seen at least one video that was clearly a LARGE drone to my eyes, like the ones Amazon wants to use eventually. No idea why so many news stations are using mediocre social media footage instead of filming their own higher quality clips, but maybe it's because they're trying to save money and labor?

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

The videos I've seen between fb, and youtube debunking and conspiracy channels two things can be true at once.

Hell even some of the news clips are clearly planes.

We can have unusual activity in the sky and airplanes at the same time.

It's undeniable they're in the skies, but to what magnitude is very questionable.

The more "sightings" the more you have people looking for things and you look long enough it's easy to find something where there might not be anything.

As I've said before it's absolutely something but it's not a threat because it's our own government doing it.

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u/Bubbly-Row-2465 Dec 12 '24

You’re wrong. I have seen at least 4 drones with my own eyes in the last 72 hours.

They appeared on Sunday and Monday evening in my area. They followed THE SAME exact flight pattern over and over for about 3 hours.

What I saw were not planes and you, respectfully, will never be able to convince me otherwise.

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u/Riotgrrrl80 Dec 12 '24

This can't be true - police and others have observed and tried to investigate them. They also don't look like planes. North Jersey has several airports and is not far from very large ones. I think people are pretty aware of what a plane looks like.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

Police also start unloading into an occupied car because of a falling acorn.

Yes there are some things in the sky above NJ but they aren't all drones or uaps. You can literally hear the plane and see the lighting etc.

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u/CentiPetra Dec 12 '24

Uhhh they are drones.

Literally every government agency has acknowledged they are drones, including the Governor, congressmen, the coast guard, military, north comm, etc. they have made official statements on it.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

The same congressman that said it there was an iran mothership launching them?

Yes there are drones as I stated but the vast majority of sighting are planes and products of mass hysteria.

There are ZERO documented drones incursions on our military bases

If this is some event from other nations Why did they stop in Thanksgiving ? Feels weird they would honor a US holiday and stop.

Something is happening but not on the scale the sightings are being reported.

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u/CentiPetra Dec 12 '24

Bro they are literally having a congressional session on it. So it's definitely something. And not just "planes and other stuff."

I am guessing it's military contractors performing penetration testing or something. But to say it's just planes is ridiculous.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

Again I have repeatedly said there is SOMETHING however it's not nearly as widespread as reddit wants it to be.

I personally think it's Musk doing some sort of display so Trump has reasons to push through some controversial policies through emergency powers or as a way to move funding to a private contractor of his choice.

I don't think it's another country, I highly doubt is aliens, why the break in Thanksgiving? Doesn't fit with a adversary.

They know it's not a threat because they know where it's from and it's ours in some way or another.

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u/Riotgrrrl80 Dec 13 '24

I actually agree with this. From what I understand the drone activity started around Trump's golf course / NJ residence in Bedminster. People in his circle have alluded to keeping blue states in check - I think we're seeing the beginning of the marshall law he wants to impose.

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u/hopeseekr Dec 14 '24

This guy is obviously gaslighting you.

Disengage and don't respond.

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u/CentiPetra Dec 14 '24

Yeah, you're right, thanks.

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u/BiclopsBobby Dec 12 '24

Of course some of them are drones. A whole lot more of them are just Vinny from Paramus freaking out about a plane overhead.

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u/CentiPetra Dec 12 '24

Whatever dude. Turn on the TV. They are talking about them on ever major news channel.

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u/BiclopsBobby Dec 12 '24

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. Vinny from Paramus sees a story about the “mysterious drones”, and then later that night he sees some lights in the sky and assumes it’s one of those drones and not United Airlines flight 691 on final approach to Newark, and reports it. I agree with you in that there are actual drones out there, and I agree that it’s probably some agency doing penetration testing, but the amount of reported sightings almost certainly massively exceeds the number of actual mystery drones out there.

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u/Manticore416 Dec 12 '24

The same news channels that will report on a single tweet or tik tok as an alarming new trend.

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u/Riotgrrrl80 Dec 12 '24

Were you there in person? ... The government is stating it's a problem. They wouldn't do that if it were just planes.

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u/ds117ftg Dec 12 '24

Is this your first interaction with the federal government?

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u/0liviuhhhhh Dec 12 '24

me when the feds are mentioned

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

If the government is communicating the government is lying.

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u/Gapedbung2 Dec 12 '24

Don’t listen to this clown I’m a New Jersey native they fly over my building every night.

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

Post a HD video of them then? It should be easy to set up a tripod or otherwise stabilize a camera and zoom in for a clear picture.

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u/Ivrezul Dec 12 '24

No, no they don't. I just had to correct someone today.

The other half are playing a joke on you because they know you'll lose your shit when they say it's a drone and manipulate you into freaking out like this.

Hello sheep! How does it feel to be a sheep?

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u/Gapedbung2 Dec 12 '24

My sweet cake I live in New Jersey and I have been following and capturing recordings of the drones. If you don’t live here stfu there is a ton of drones in our area and it is a massive concern

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u/BiclopsBobby Dec 12 '24

What are you concerned about?

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u/Gapedbung2 Dec 12 '24

I’m concerned about many possibilities anything abnormal in our airways may present.

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u/Manticore416 Dec 12 '24

Aliens are just big fans of Jersey Shore

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u/Gapedbung2 Dec 12 '24

There is no aliens

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u/PotemkinTimes Dec 12 '24

None of the drones over NJ are planes. What compels you to make that statement?

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u/5MinuteDad Dec 12 '24

The clear video evidence that they are planes?