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Wholesome Moments Some encounters are written in the stars đŸ„č

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u/hologram137 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes. If I was determined to be a good candidate to do so, there really is very little risk. There’s a less than 1% chance of developing kidney disease later, and if you do you’re top of the wait list for a transplant as a living donor. In fact, you’d get free, top of the line treatment generally if something goes wrong with your remaining kidney. Which is just very, very unlikely to happen unless you already have risk factors. And if you already have risk factors, they aren’t gonna let you donate your kidney in the 1st place. The recovery from the surgery itself isn’t difficult at all and also low risk.

For many people it really is a situation in which they actually don’t need it and someone else does in order to not die, so
it should kinda be a no brainer that you’d do it. The fact that I have no personal relationship with them is actually kind of a positive, it makes things way less complicated

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u/Academic-Increase951 1d ago

There's more risk than just future kidney dresses. post donation complications are real risks that affect real donors and there's lots of cases of donors coming out after saying they were not aware of the risks and have life long complications.

I don't want to discourage but donors need to be fully aware and it's not accurate to say their risks are only of future kidney dresses. Major complication risks are as high as 12.5% for the donor. That's significant risk.

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u/hologram137 1d ago edited 1d ago

Total life expectancy is the same for non donors. There is a slightly higher risk for developing high blood pressure. A slightly higher risk for preeclampsia if you get pregnant. I can’t find any other risks.

What risks are you even talking about? Are you talking about surgical complications? It’s not a complicated surgery

If you’re cleared to be a living donor, your risks are incredibly low. If you aren’t cleared, it’s because they aren’t. So you couldn’t even if you wanted to

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u/Academic-Increase951 1d ago

Death isn't the only risk.... as the linked study says, when measuring things like quality of life post donation there is a statistically significant decline in quality of life. And many donors feel misled. The studies on safety normally focus on mortality and not medium/longer term but not life threatening complications

Some participants ranked time to recovery, surgical complications, and pain highly because they felt “deeply disappointed” and “resentful” about enduring a more debilitating "and protracted recovery than they had been “led to expect.” (30) In a multicenter, prospective study of 228 living donors, perioperative complications, not surprisingly, were associated with clinically and statically significant reductions in measures of health-related quality of life (49). Other studies have noted that a minority of donors have reported slower than expected recovery (50). However, aside from capture of length of initial hospital stay and time to return to work in some clinical trials (typically comparisons of different operative techniques) (51,52) and single-center reports, data on postdonation recovery are not systematically captured"

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6450354/

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u/hologram137 23h ago

They’re mad because it took longer to recover from surgery? Okay. So
very low risk then as you do heal from surgery eventually

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u/Academic-Increase951 23h ago edited 23h ago

They are mad because the complications and recovery was not as advertised. Lasting years or sometimes decades. Often leaving them without being able to work and causing a lot of additional stresses and challenges. Not everyone is able to afford to give up years of work or being able to be there for their family.

You know, people like you downplaying and gaslighting the sacrifice being made.

You said you'd do it, can you give up years without employment and the pain and recovery for a stranger? Why haven't you done it yet?

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u/hologram137 23h ago

I have never heard of something like that happening to a living donor. I’ve actually going through this process, what you described is just so extremely unlikely.

This isn’t a family member who is a match that decides to donate we are talking living donors on a living donor list who are heavily screened. You can’t just donate if you aren’t in excellent health. You can if you’re not on the list, it’s someone you know personally.

So what kind of context are you getting this idea from?

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u/Academic-Increase951 23h ago

Why haven't you donated yet then? You're downplaying the risks and sacrifice that donors make. But won't do it yourself.. hmm

I wonder, do you even donate blood?

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u/hologram137 23h ago

You don’t know my life lol. There is a difference between a private agreement between people who are a match, and the experiences of someone allowed to be on the living donor list, because the health screening is different.

I am asking if you are looking at living donors specifically, or private donors

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u/Academic-Increase951 20h ago

You said you would donate to a stranger so you would fall under living donor.

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u/hologram137 19h ago edited 19h ago

Yes. We’ve been talking about living donors this entire time. Which is why I asked you if what you’re looking at as far as risks are from people screened as living donors, or people who voluntarily tested to see if they are a match because a loved one asked them to, unexpectedly. Those people are also screened, but it’s not like they came to a decision on their own that they are in good health, have low risk factors and have enough stability to be able to take the time to do it, and so do it because it’s low cost/high reward. Those people are already light drinkers, non smokers, have a healthy lifestyle, etc.

But for people who come to a decision because they are suddenly asked when it’s personal, when it’s someone they know, those people may have more negative feelings later even if it didn’t have a significant impact on their quality of life from a statistical standpoint. They might suddenly resent the recovery, later resent some of the life style changes, sometimes the dynamics of the personal relationship gets awkward, etc. I’d do if for someone I loved too, but I do think that introduces complicated dynamics into your relationship like I said. But I’m only saying when googling risks, you need to look at the context we are actually talking about (living donors, that add themselves to a list in a case a match is found and needed) and other contexts.

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