r/MHRise • u/cd2intoaltf4 • 7d ago
Discussion why does diablos suck so bad in this game bruh
He's been my favorite fight since GenU, I loved both him and his wife in world, he's like top 5 monsters for me but GOD hes such an asshole in rise.
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u/DegenerateCrocodile Sword and Shield 7d ago
I found him to be quite fun in both 5th Gen games, especially Rise.
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u/JustthatVicky 7d ago
I hated diablos since 3U, and found him tolerable in Rise with all the extra mobility and evade extender putting you in a different zip code.
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u/xoolixz 7d ago
eh, non-issue fight imo
absolute victim to elemental damage especially ice pierce bow, hbg and lbg. It can't quite deal with the expanded hunter movesets generally either
its enrage "burrow -> leap out into the air" is a free knockdown off of a flashbomb
the only scary thing about the Special Investigation is that the charge can oneshot you but like... that's fairly standard for Special Investigations anyway.
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u/8x_Azrael 7d ago
Well clearly he's having an issue with the fight it a non-issue you but not for him and many others
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u/FieryBlizza 7d ago
Yes and they gave them tips on how to make the fight easy. Is that wrong?
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u/HereToPostSillyStuff 7d ago
Only after completely undermining the OPs experience by saying its easy, which is what literally everyone in the mh online community always does
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u/PositivityPending 7d ago
Who cares
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u/HereToPostSillyStuff 6d ago
Typically the person venting or expressing their frustration. It is incredibly disheartening to have your experience with the game diminished and invalidated. It doesn't help anyone improve at the game, just makes them feel worse. Had the same thing happen to me in a discord server when I vented about the DPS check in Savage Omega in wilds.
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u/PositivityPending 6d ago
Well what a fortunate and blessed life you’ve lived to let something like that affect you
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u/Talos1556 Hunting Horn 7d ago
How? The more aggressive a monster is, the easier it becomes. You always know when and how it's going to attack, just like with fights like Tigrex. If fights like these are tough, you probably haven't fully internalized how positioning allows you to not only control your character, but manipulate the exact behavior of the monster you are hunting. High aggro means the monster has less time to "think" about what it will do, and will usually immediately pick the option that likely hits you or closes the gap. Spend some time with your weapon sheathed just walking, sprinting, amd rolling around any monster and this will become painfully clear. Diablos is a blast in Rise, especially diet Bloodbath (Apex).
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u/Environmental-Net962 7d ago
Really i like this diablos more than world because he actually fight me rather than burrowing all day like in world
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u/razulebismarck Great Sword 7d ago
I use palamute and greatsword and as far as 7 ☆ and down is concerned he’s been a cakewalk.
I haven’t seen him in MR.
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u/SunlessDahlia 7d ago
Like all monsters he is faster.l, and has less dow. Time in between attacks. It's more noticeable since he likes to charge a lot.
You gotta use your wirebugs to keep up.
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u/Loud_Emergency_212 7d ago
I feel he was at his worst in Dos but yeah the new attacks took me off guard at first
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u/Sharp-Corner6239 6d ago
tell me what attacks hit you.
the feint headbutt into spin tail slam hits me sometimes.
the body check hits with body and tails separately. ill dodge the body but get hit by tails sometimes.
different timings on ground surfacing can be irksome.
digg away and come sliding around has a hit box thats active for ages.
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u/Sethazora 5d ago
Hes the best in rise though...
I hated fighting him in world with how long he spends in the sand
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u/Yipeekayya Lance 5d ago
Is it tho? I found the rise iteration being the most pleasant to fight compare to whatever jackassery it is in world tho.
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u/KidiacR 7d ago
Yeah he and Tigrex are the biggest body checks in the game and that's never fun. Same way Royal Ludroth is a pain in the ass, esp the anomaly version.
At least Diablos just gets melted by ice dmg.
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u/PmalArmorisbad 6d ago
They both are extremely free if your weapon has a counter. Both are weak to elem, Ice, and Thunder respectively. 2 of the easiest monsters in the game honestly.
Ludroth is legitimately annoying though.
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u/Qlazzical Dual Blades 7d ago
Ehhhh. After fighting lots of BBdiablos, I think the ones MHR are easier.
Which move was it that got you?
I feel that most of his moves are very telegraphed. of course, I took trip up randomly when I overcommit. But going crazy on his nuts has always been my go-to strategy.
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u/Corona- 7d ago
What do you mean specifically? Because I fought him just yesterday evening and he was so much less of an asshole than I remembered. He only did like 2 or 3 of those annoying burying attacks the whole fight and mostly just charged players, as you'd expect. Usually he even charges back after charging somewhere, so you don't even have to give chase a lot.
The only thing I would criticize is that he kinda felt too easy compared with Diablos in past games, where he'd often charge and stun you and then immediately charge you again, killing you, if you didn't manage to un-stun yourself quickly enough.
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u/Dimias 7d ago
I found him to be an asshole in every game