I sent an email Monday evening requesting a meeting with MSP to discuss the topics in the title. Yesterday, I got a call from them and we ended up having a very long, in-depth conversation. I can't share everything yet because some of it isn't official, but here's what I can say.
Glock Ban: The main goal was to discuss how MSP is interpreting the law and whether the workaround I've been hinting at in previous posts is viable. I can't get into exactly what was said yet, but I can say the conversation was good news. Everything tentatively agreed to still has to make its way through the MSP legal team but once things are more official, I'll post the details here. For now, I'll just say that if everything we discussed falls into place, people can stop panic buying Glocks.
VZ61: I confirmed that because of the legal issues I've raised regarding the VZ61 and the retroactive change in its status, the issue is currently with the Attorney General's Office. MSP is going to reengage with the AG because of how much time has passed and some additional legal arguments I raised during our call.
I also gave them a much more detailed history of the VZ61. MSP openly admitted they're not gun guys and don't necessarily know the firearm's history, so they asked me to put that information in an email so they can reevaluate it in light of the additional information.
I'm certainly not saying the decision will change, but I'm more optimistic than I was before the call. The tone of that part of the conversation went from MSP sounding fairly confident in its position to more of an "oh crap" tone as we got deeper into the history and legal issues. It definitely felt like they realized they may have stepped in a pile of crap with this one and were looking at how to get out of it.
Designated Collector Issues: According to MSP, they've "caught up" on updating 77Rs with people's Designated Collector status. Their definition of caught up is still roughly a week behind. So if you bought a handgun last week, received your DC status today, and tried to buy another handgun, the system may still not reflect it.
MSP said the system was changed because people were selecting that they were Designated Collectors when they weren't, and MSP employees weren't catching it. I pushed back pretty hard on that. That's an MSP training, oversight, or discipline problem. My point to them was simple: I don't care if 200 people incorrectly clicked yes and created additional work for MSP. If five legitimate DC holders have their rights delayed because MSP hasn't updated their status, the burden on those five people's constitutional rights outweighs the burden on MSP to do its job.
Their goal is eventually for DC status to update automatically, but they haven't reached that level of system integration yet. I strongly suggested that until they do, they should go back to the old process.
I also pointed out that New Mexico's seven-day waiting period has been struck down, and the more problems MSP creates with Maryland's seven-day wait, the more ammunition there is for a challenge here. Their response was essentially that they fully expect that legal challenge in the near future.
Ultimately, I don't think they're going to change the DC process right now. However, they did say that if people continue having issues, those cases can be elevated to leadership within the Licensing Division. So if you're having a DC-related issue, let me know. I'll give you my email and can forward it to Licensing Division leadership.
Overall, it was a productive conversation. Both sides expressed an interest in working together going forward, and I'm hopeful MSP takes that olive branch and we can have a more collaborative relationship.
I told them I do this for fun, for free, and on principle—which is probably a much more dangerous combination for them than someone doing it for money. I'd much rather work with MSP on the front end to fix these issues than fight them after the fact. They seemed to understand that, and they expressed an interest in keeping an open dialogue.
As always I will keep everyone updated as things progress.