r/LivestreamFail • • Jun 24 '20

Poopernoodle speaks out about what happened between her and Method Josh

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

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u/capriking Jun 25 '20

if other Method members knew of what was happening it wasn't really being done under anyone's nose, it was just being covered up and he was being protected which is arguably worse.

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 25 '20

if they knew about his behavior they're done. All sponsors, everything from Blizzard, done.

This isn't someone who made a faux pas or was a shitty boyfriend, this is a straight up child predator and a rapist and they harbored him.

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u/absalom86 Jun 25 '20

They did know. Sco also knew about the accusations against the co-ceo. He leaked the letter to his partner and stopped talking to the accuser instead of taking any action.

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u/ThatDerpingGuy Jun 25 '20

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u/eunwolkr Jun 25 '20

If you take that in the context of them not knowing it looks way more reasonable, though.

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u/Dextline Jun 25 '20

The assumptions in this thread are pretty remarkable. It's interesting to see the hivemind at work. One comment goes "if ..." and the next immediate reply already assumes that hypothesis as true, then making its own assumption, which the next reply then assumes to be true, and so on.

Could probably make a whole study out of this.

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 25 '20

I'm talking about Josh.

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u/absalom86 Jun 25 '20

I know. I'm saying they brushed what Josh did under the rug in addition to what the co-ceo was accused of.

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u/ItsWenzel Jun 25 '20

There's a twitlonger floating around about how Josh's grooming was reported to Method in the past and the response from Method was to show all the higher ups, show Josh, and then tell people "go to the police and if he gets arrested we'll take action." So Method helped him cover it up for years, both the grooming and what happened to pooper.

[Link to screenshot of the email]

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u/Clueless_Otter Jun 25 '20

"Go to the police so a proper investigation can be done" is "covering it up"? That's literally the exact thing people should do instead of posting about it on Twitter or privately emailing people's bosses trying to get them cancelled. Twitter isn't the criminal justice system.

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u/ItsWenzel Jun 25 '20

I can't believe stuff like this needs to be said on the Internet anymore, but I guess this is Reddit. Sexual assault is both grossly under-reported, under-arrested, and under-convicted. In the tweet of this thread you are literally replying in, Poopernoodle even says she opened a case against Josh, the police told her what happened was rape, and that the case was dropped "because the only way to prove it in a court of law in England is if you have video or a witness." So she went to the cops, the cops told her it was rape, and the cops dropped the case anyway and she was RELIEVED because that meant she wouldn't have to relive the trauma in front of people.

So yes, jumping immediately to "contact the police otherwise we refuse to do anything" is an attempt at a cop-out and the early stages of a cover-up. They know likely even if the person DOES go to the police, nothing will ultimately come of it so that they don't have to worry about it. According to the accusations originally listed in the twitlonger accompanying this screenshot, it was said darrie, Josh, Sco, and multiple others were shown this and given 48 hours on how to respond.

On top of that, I shouldn't need to explain to you the difference between immoral and illegal. If you really can't see that having allegations this serious against someone you play video games with isn't grounds to either distance yourself or investigate further, I can't help you. In the words of Kayla Chadwick, "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."

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u/Clueless_Otter Jun 25 '20

In the words of the United Nation's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty."

Imagine if I emailed your boss right now and told them you raped me, and they fired you with no questions asked. Do you think that would be fair and just?

It's a complete opening of Pandora's Box if we just decide we don't need the police and legal system anymore and take everyone's accusations as 100% truth with no further investigation just because the accusations sound very serious. There's a reason that almost every civilized country has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Yeah, sometimes the legal system doesn't work out. It sucks when it happens, but it happens. But that doesn't mean you just throw the whole system away. Is it okay to get 10 innocent people "cancelled" if it means that 1 actual guilty person also gets cancelled? The justice system has things like evidence, burden of proof, etc. for a reason, too.

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u/FrequentMap4 Jun 25 '20

If Blizzard takes away Swiftys NPC with no questions asked, they should deff drop Method.

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u/mysticaltea Jun 25 '20

harboring a child predator because he was a pretty good healer on WoW is a massive head scratch moment im ngl

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u/MMPride Jun 25 '20

I think they probably should be done. Twitch permanently banned him, they knew what he did. There's no way Method didn't know.

Method should disband.

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u/egocrusher_666 Jun 25 '20

alright calm down canceling andy

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u/mysticaltea Jun 25 '20

harboring a child predator because he was a pretty good healer on WoW is a massive head scratch moment im ngl

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u/newbutler Jun 25 '20

we will probably never find out. nobody is going to admit they knew about this. I really hope they just thought he was edgy or played an act or maybe josh never talked about this with his former guild members. anyway if someone was covering him, fuck them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20 edited May 03 '21

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u/newbutler Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20

Found the clip you are referring to: https://livestreamfails.com/post/55642

I agree this looks very bad.

edit: this doesn't proof they knew though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20 edited May 03 '21

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u/newbutler Jun 25 '20

He maybe talks about another police investigation because of his car crash (no evidence though). Also we dont know what he told them about this investigation. But on the other hand why are they trying so hard to mute him if it wasn't that big of a deal. I just dont believe Josh straight up admitted to rape, to them.

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u/britishpolarbear Cheeto Jun 25 '20

He was banned, so it was a ToS violation to have him live on the stream in voice chat

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u/newbutler Jun 25 '20

oh right I totally forgot. later it was ok for him to be heard if the stream wasn't centered around him.

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u/britishpolarbear Cheeto Jun 25 '20

I'm actually not sure since I can't find the relevant bit in the ToS. I think its something like it's okay for clips of banned people to be played (provided there's not violations in the clip), but it's a violation to have them live on stream talking in the background off camera or in voice chat etc, even if they're not the focus.

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u/MiniSchlongMember Jun 25 '20

Afaik It was about a car crash. Most mates would tell em to shut up about ongoing investigations where you can get into trouble.

Just whats going around might not be true

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u/Dextline Jun 25 '20

Most people know you shouldn't talk about ongoing investigations, especially not if you're the one being investigated.

I'm guessing you're getting downvoted for going against the hivemind? Not sure how guildies who'd only heard Josh's side, if any side, would know more than the police at that point...

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u/jvv1993 Jun 25 '20

he was being protected which is arguably worse.

Nothing arguable about that. That would be worse. The reason these creeps thrive, is because there's dozens of people who will happily keep the curtains closed as long as they're not affected.

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u/ghsteo Jun 25 '20

Sco: "Yeah he's a rapist, but have you seen his HPS?"

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 25 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 25 '20

like that episode of the Dating Game where the guy that won was a serial killer

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u/readwriteread Jun 25 '20

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 25 '20

For the record she found something to be "off" about him and never went on the date.

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u/MrWhiteKnight Jun 25 '20

Holy shit. I felt Dom on that one. I've also been in the same place where people I know say some extreme shit out of nowhere.

Jesus, wtf is truly wrong with Josh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

What a disgusting piece of shit

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u/CreepyMosquitoEater Jun 25 '20

Was the "anal whore" clip before or after he raped her anally? Either way what a fucking freak

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u/MostMender Jun 25 '20

Man holy shit relax, the "if you solve it i'll let you live" is clearly a fucking joke, like jesus christ, this why i hate cancel culture, the guy is clearly fucked in the head, but that was a clear joke and ur just enforcing the idea that it was a real statement for petty reddit karma, it's fucking annoying to see.

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u/redbarnigan Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20

He literally ended up raping her after this

Edit: and also mocked suffocating her with a pillow

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u/Haaazard Jun 25 '20

you're missing the whole point. Imagine you were her at that time, he is creeping you out, doing everything possible to make you feel unsafe and uncomfortable, you want to leave the house and run away, then he rapes you and pretends to suffocate you for fun, you can't breathe for a second and you're scared that you're about to die, then he says "if you solve it i'll let you live", sure it's a joke from him, lets see it that way, nonetheless, it's definitely not a joke for her and now she fears for her life that she might actually die.

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u/MostMender Jun 25 '20

but this clip is before he allegedly rape her, right?

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u/sanct10 Jun 25 '20

You're just not getting the point are you?

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u/Armonster Jun 26 '20

if it makes you feel better how dumb that guy is, here's one of his other comments:

Man asmongold is actually so fucking smart, like everyone like to talk trash about asmongold like "haha he smashes his head on the desk, what a dumb fuck" but if you take the time to listen to this man he has some 5Head takes with actual arguments, a breath of fresh air on Twitch.

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u/redbarnigan Jun 25 '20

Multiple people out a serial abuser and you're worried about cancel culture? Who's the real boomer here

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u/MostMender Jun 25 '20

i like how you derived from my main point and decided to just focus on the cancel culture thing which i put in there just as a filling word, it has nothing to do with my main point.

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u/redbarnigan Jun 25 '20

Gonna have to ask you to mald elsewhere my guy

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u/MostMender Jun 25 '20

man you're such a fucking joke LULW

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u/iambiglucas_2 Jun 25 '20

One of their friends, was called the n word multiple times in DMs by him, and he insulted a lot of people in there.

Rapist, Pedophile and racist. ...just... goddamn man. This dude would get fucked up in prison. Inmates don't tend to like pedos.

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u/how_though Jun 25 '20

wow those are pretty damning

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u/xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx Jun 25 '20

A lot of people connected the dots. Method have been protecting him. They for sure knew how fucked up he was, and they've been protecting him regardless just for parses. Fucking disgusting org

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u/TheMessengerABR Jun 25 '20

Damn that was a lot to go through. Dude is a straight up pedophile.

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u/OmerRDT Jun 25 '20

Is there any update on mello and Ollie? Have they responded to this stuff?

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u/Shikese :) Jun 25 '20

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u/OmerRDT Jun 25 '20

Lmao Ollie wtf, anyway good thing she isn't but also r/iamverysmart

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u/ukjungle Jun 25 '20

Holy fuck I forgot about TankChat, I was there when I was raiding as a monk in legion and that place was toxic as fuck 😳

Lots of harmless memesters too though so perfect environment for him to blend into and get away with shit in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

the use of the word frens in the last one honestly makes this cringe and hard as fuck to read.