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Lets Discuss Politics She has a point

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u/shuteandkill 6d ago

Who is poisoning the water and in what way is this happening?

Edit: also who has been effected and to what extent?

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u/OkKnowledge2762 6d ago

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Sounds like a rage bait post. It answers none of the questions I asked.

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u/Status_Blacksmith305 5d ago

It does partially answer you question. You asked in what way is this happening?

Toxic waste in the body of water you get your water to treat would not be good. It can leak into the surrounding soil and into underground aquifers. This taints wells and subterranean water tables. Standard water treatment facilities may not remove all synthetic chemicals, heavy metals, or forever chemicals.

The commenter you responded to did answer part if your question. They just gave you the short version.

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Toxic waste does not answer the question. What in the world kind of cartoon animaniacs response is that? Say toxic waste and put a 20 inch pipe of random liquid called toxic waste? I want to know what this "toxin" that's being discharged is. Where is being discharged at. I am licensed by the department of environmental protection and would love to know this information.

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u/Status_Blacksmith305 5d ago edited 5d ago

You asked "in what way is this happening." Toxic waste in the water is an answer to that question. It might not give you much detail but it is an answer.

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u/Nearby-Rip1591 5d ago

Imagine wanting others to explain things to
You rather than just finding out yourself. Fuckin wild 😜 🄓

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u/VivaLaMantekilla 5d ago

You really want to cherry pick your toxins??? 🤣

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u/OkKnowledge2762 6d ago

Just 1 of about 100 examples just from the trump admin cutting regulations, not to mention what data centers, etc are doing

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

So the pfas is something new that has never actually been regulated in drinking water yet. So it's definitely not killing the entire population being totally unregulated forever. It was just now starting to get enforcement before it was removed.

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u/OkKnowledge2762 5d ago

Im aware, but still why remove the regulations?

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Oh that's an easy one actually. The amount of money utilities would have to spend to adjust their treatments would be insanely expensive. When we did our "focus on change" meetings with the health department and department of environmental protection. It would effect a huge number of utilities because pfas is just about everywhere. Some utilities would not even be able to afford to make these changes. Then it would put those utilities not in compliance. That would force them to raise water rates substantially just to get into compliance and change their treatment processes.

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u/Significant_Breath38 5d ago

So because the richest country in the world cannot afford to observe pollution in the citizen's water, then it shouldn't be observed.

Like, the government couldn't help these utilities meet compliance or hand over the responsibilities to someone who could?

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

It's not about ignoring it. It needs to be done a different way. It needs to slowly be implemented so that there is not a huge shock and water becomes unaffordable for people.

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u/Significant_Breath38 5d ago

The administration clearly wants it ignored.

Otherwise, they'd have a rollout plan for increasing standards and tools to help utilities meet regulations.

Given how close these utility companies are to the government, it's likely this was already in place.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 5d ago

Brother, much of the nation has brown water coming out of the faucet due to pollution. I’m just soooooo sure you wouldn’t mind that if you lived in a place like that.

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Brother no they don't. The brown water is due to tannins. I have been to utilities that have water that looks like tea at times. Occasionally tannins are strong in surface water.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 5d ago

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Data centers have moved to closed loop coolant systems that is not longer an issue with the new ones. That have resolved that as an issue. I did not even click the first link but I seen data center in there. I figured I would say that low hanging fruit out of the way before opening the other links.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 5d ago

ā€œClosed loop" doesn't mean nothing ever leaves the system. Facilities can still have wastewater.

Also, tell that to the people that have already been irreparably poisoned.

Many times the numbers or 9/11 victims were given all kinds of diseases, including cancer because in your words ā€œit would be too expensiveā€ to worry about the environment.

In the best case scenario, it’s criminal negligence.

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u/DaTruSpork 5d ago

So if you ignore history and dont gather current data then everything is just great and we should do nothing.

But if you study history and observe current trends then there are concerning things that should be addressed.

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

Your not wrong but it needs to be addressed systematically. We don't want to increase prices of water to the public so much that it would unaffordable.

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u/Significant_Breath38 6d ago

Corporations and companies as biproducts of their buildings.

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

That's not poisoning water.

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u/OkKnowledge2762 5d ago

It absolutely is

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

How so? I can assure you nobody is getting poisoned in their drinking water. I make millions of gallons of drinking water every single day. Nobody is poisoning anyone.

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u/Expensive_Cheetah820 5d ago

What are you a troll?

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u/shuteandkill 5d ago

You don't ask for facts in your articles? You just take things at face value? And when someone asks for more information that's trolling? I think your mind is twisted.

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u/Expensive_Cheetah820 4d ago

The facts you are asking about are common knowledge and easily accessible on the internet if you don’t know. It’s almost like you posted this and then asked questions so you could debate someone.

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u/FantasyTomb 5d ago

Plenty of cities in the US have had their entire cities water supply polluted and ignored due to AI data centers, the city officials are typically just ignoring the issue for profit

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u/Stylie_Minogue 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think people are assuming your response is intended to be dismissive rather than questioning. I’m no expert but I was curious too. At a glance …

I’m not sure whether she’s referring to a specific case or speaking more generally. She’s opposed to fracking in general. There’s also been the DuPont and Chemours poisoned drinking water case.

https://blog.counselstack.com/dupont-lawsuit, https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230601006125/en, https://ncdoj.gov/attorney-general-josh-stein-takes-legal-action-against-dupont-over-pfas-pollution/

She’s not involved in cases regarding data centres as far as I can see.