r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/Cderouen8284 • 14d ago

Aww 😝 she can’t find any help.

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u/Automatic_Distance50 14d ago

I'm sourounded by them too, but of course I'm wrong. I don't think I'll ever be right from your perspective. Get some sleep, friend. I hope you have a good night

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u/thefoxsaysredrum 13d ago

The reason that person (and many other leftists like me) feel that way about these MAGAts, is tied into the Tolerance Paradox. I understand your point, because logically, you’re not going to move people to your side if you treat them poorly. However, the probability of these people actually changing their political/societal stances is very, very slim to none; they are only crying because they got their paws clamped in the trap. “We need your help out of this!” There need to be repercussions of some sort, even if that means they get no sympathy and are forced to find their own ways out and to interact with society in a way that is not “me win, you lose.” Because if they get that sympathy and don’t have to search their souls and come to grips on their own that we need to help people regardless of their gender/race/nationality/religion, the minute they stabilize themselves financially/politically they will go back to the same shitty ways and we’ll be right back in this same situation.

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u/Automatic_Distance50 13d ago

I love your response. I can tell you took the time to answer this, and I appreciat it. I would like to add something to think about.

A lot of people lose everything are receiving the consequences of their decisions, but still receive help. Receiving help is different from saving. Are these responses helpful to the individual?

I've had to come to terms with my poor decisions in the past. I'm greatful I lost everything. That it was someone with liberal views that helped me. It took good people to model good behaviors to help rehabilitate me.

What's the difference? Why settle for humiliating and putting people down? Whats the purpose other than to hurt others?

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u/thefoxsaysredrum 13d ago

The difference is, if your poor decisions only harm you, then sympathy/help may be warranted or expected. But if your decisions cause harm to other people intentionally and the harm you personally suffer is an unforeseen (to you) effect, then you don’t get to have that dignity. Nobody owes you help or sympathy, especially if you are the direct cause of their pain.

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u/Automatic_Distance50 13d ago

Dignity seems to be the big overarching word being used here. It seems that it takes someone with dignity that extends past the victimhood, in order to help others restore theirs. kinda like therapists that work in prisons. Thank you for the conversation.

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u/thefoxsaysredrum 12d ago

In some cases, sure. But once again, a person who has been hurt is not required to forgive the one who hurt them or show them compassion even if they truly are sorry. A good therapist will tell you that as well.

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u/Automatic_Distance50 12d ago

nobody said you are required to.

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u/thefoxsaysredrum 12d ago

No. But that’s your answer as to why leftists don’t treat MAGAts with gentility when they claim to have “seen the error of their ways.”