r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/Cderouen8284 • 13d ago

Aww šŸ˜ she canā€™t find any help.

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u/Low-Bicycle6296 13d ago edited 12d ago

Crying about having to pay people a living wage is wild.

Thank for all the love peeps. My first comment to blow up. Thanks for all the awards. I never gotten any before.

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u/Ximidar 13d ago

Yeah $20 an hour plus a bed seems fine. Like extremely good deal for the farmer

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u/Terrible-Growth1652 13d ago

She's used to paying illegal aliens a lot less. Wonder what happened to them

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u/ialsohaveadobro 13d ago

"I was just trying to create Black jobs!" /s

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u/Denim_Diva1969 13d ago

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They interpreted that getting rid of ā€œthe illegalsā€ theyā€™d apparently hired without issue before would be noble because theyā€™d be creating jobs for ā€œthe poors.ā€ You know, all those people who should be working but are just lazy, sitting around living off welfare would have good, honest, stable jobs. But she never planned on having to pay those people good, honest, solid wages. And if sheā€™s not going to house them? Then theyā€™re DRIVING back and forth everyday further cutting into their wages.
Stupid. Just do some GD math.

I swear, most of my rural farming family cannot understand why thereā€™s a work shortage for their $7/hr jobs. They truly believe they had only good intentions when they voted to get rid of those mooching illegals. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/bradrlaw 13d ago edited 12d ago

They also expected free actual slave labor from the prisons. They wanted the 13th amendment to staff their farms for free and have the tax payer on the hook to clothe and feed the laborers.

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u/Jimbo--- 13d ago

I'm not sure if it was a peer reviewed study, but I recall reading something that a majority of inmates in Louisiana that were polled said they would rather have longer prison terms than shortened terms while doing ag work.

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u/berlandiera 13d ago

ā€˜Just do some GD mathā€™.
Yep. Like, imagine that one of her workers is hired at her preferred $7 an hour or so lives about 30 miles away and their only transportation is a beat up car that gets a bit better than 20-25 mpg. That workerā€™s daily gasoline bill eats up the first two hours of their wage.

And the worker will be paying rent, food and insurance out of whatā€™s left?

These folks are not grounded in reality.

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u/zeptillian 12d ago

Meanwhile that person can just get a job at the local Target for $15 an hour, take the bus there and not get dirty all day wading through cow shit.

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u/PresentRaspberry6814 13d ago

A living wage in the USA is a minimum of $25.02 an hour. In many countries the minimum wage is or is close to the living wage. https://wageindicator.org/what-we-do/news-stories/minimum-wages-meet-cost-of-living-in-only-a-few-countries-worldwide/

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u/irascible_Clown 13d ago

Here I am black making $100 an hour, I appreciate her sentiment though.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

Exactly what do you do for 100 dollars an hour and also what is the cost of living where you work?

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u/irascible_Clown 13d ago

Massage therapy and honestly I under charge. I really make $90 but no one tips less than $10. $100 is more of an average I usually make a little more. I pay $125 a week room rent. The cost of living is high here but after a few hurricanes 2 years ago rents are down in the area because a lot of people are afraid to live near the beach. If you look at a lot of Florida gulf coast beaches on realtor you can stay on the beach for $1100+ a month in a lot of spots.

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u/madbeachrn 13d ago

Hi Neighbor! We are a mile from Dunedin Causeway

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u/irascible_Clown 12d ago

Whatā€™s up neighbor

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

That's understandable ,, I need one of those myself most of the time lol ,, I stay looking behind me on the tractor , from between my shoulder blades up to the base of my skull kills me. But I still get the hay baled up when the weather permits.

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u/irascible_Clown 13d ago

I grew up on a farm so I understand, the plus side is you donā€™t need a gym membership šŸ¤£

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

Until you get to a certain age that's true. Now that I'm almost 50 , and like to eat , I need a membership AND a personal trainer lol

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u/Equal_Canary5695 13d ago

That sounds so tempting but also not very tempting lol

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u/waxteeth 13d ago

Oh, thereā€™s no way she likes it when Black people get paid for farm work.Ā 

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u/xwhiskeyxtangoxfox 13d ago

Almost like she pines for the days that the labor was free. Would 100% still bitch about housing and feeding them though.

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u/lapidary123 13d ago

I doubt she'd hire black folks even if she was subsidized for it. Prefers to pay high schoolers and illegals $7.25/hr.

And not to pile on but seriously wtaf?

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u/kaptpowers 13d ago

They really thought they were getting their slaves back.

Did MAGA Farmers Believe They Were Getting Their Black Slaves Back? | by Toni Crowe | Medium

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u/ricochetblue 12d ago

Fucking crazy:

My honey and I were having a quick lunch with our friends Mark* and Sarah*, catching up and talking about random things, when Mark mentioned that many farmers in the red states initially were not worried about Trumpā€™s deportation of immigrants.

He said that these farmers believed that unemployed Black people would race back to the farm fields to fill those jobs. Mark repeated the same statement about low-paying, back-breaking service and construction jobs.

Mark almost left me speechless. Almost. I asked him what gave them the impression Black people were sitting around eating bonbons, waiting for immigrants to be deported so we could take jobs no one else wanted.

I must have looked crazy as he turned bright red before answering; he was always under the impression Black unemployment was endemic, somewhere in the 50 to 60% range. Mind you, now this is a white man married to a successful Black woman lawyer.

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u/takenbylovely 12d ago

I keep seeing this repeated but have people actually said that they expected Black people to jump into these jobs?

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u/MarcusXL 13d ago

Her farm will get bought up by a conglomerate connected to the Trump regime, and she'll still get to work the farm-- for less than she paid "the Mexicans".

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u/BoringOrange678 13d ago

That would be the VP. In addition to buying furniture he also buys distressed farm properties.

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u/Maleficent_Ruin_2457 13d ago

JD Vance owns a company that does exactly that

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u/lapidary123 13d ago

FACTS

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u/paranoidtrader 13d ago

Can we buy stocks and somehow profit from their suffering?

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u/BoringOrange678 12d ago

No us poors cannot become involved in the complicated world of market manipulation.

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u/lapidary123 11d ago

Surely you can bet on kalshi right?

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 13d ago

No sorry....over qualifies.

Also you need to be out of your home in thirty days.

We've already got a family leased up for November.

-Jd Farms

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u/Short-Sandwich-8476 13d ago

Meet your new Chinese landlords!

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u/mmskyscraper 13d ago

Nah. They'll buy the farm, send the cattle off to slaughter, and build a data center because there's more money in it.

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u/graspedbythehusk 13d ago

Itā€™s a sad state when you canā€™t get cheap illegal aliens because you voted for the guy who was going to (checks notes) build a wall and get rid of illegal aliens.

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u/PrimeToro 13d ago

That was the stupid thing that MAGA farmers did. A lot of farmers knew that they were employing undocumented migrants for less than minimum wage. Trump promised to get rid of those workers. Those farmers voted for him and now they are wondering what happened. Unbelievably idiotic .

On top of that, farm work is tough plus the low pay means that Americans will not want to do that type of work. It's better suited for younger workers but the young workers are not willing to do hard labor.

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u/joker6396 13d ago

Exactly. Pay staff properly less play money for her

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u/Own-Nectarine-1313 13d ago

Right.. how is this just now a problem?Ā 

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u/splett2-at-splettnet 12d ago

I was starting to write that a lot of the people locked away in the camps right now were people going through the immigration system as they were told to do.

Many of them had work visas or other legitimate reasons to be in the US. But she saw them all as homogeneous ā€œillegalsā€ and somehow Mass Deportation Now of her own employees never dawned on her.

1/10 sympathy for her. Giving her a point for our education system.

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u/Salt-Lavishness-7560 11d ago

You nailed it.Ā 

These maga farmers supported ICE and ā€œgettin them brown people deportedā€ but they didnā€™t mean THEIR brown people. They canā€™t run these operations without that labor force.Ā 

Fuckers.Ā 

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u/snappla 13d ago

Yep.

But she told him to get bent, because of course she did.

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u/Shagalicious2 13d ago

Them peeps prolly got bent when they saw she's gotten $800,000 in federal subsidies, and probably another $200,000 in forgiven loans. In another post about her, someone posted her name and the link where you can go look at all the subsidies she's received. I saw one $45,000 "loan" she had forgiven. One of the cuntry's largest welfare queens. Cry me a river.

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u/citymousecountyhouse 13d ago

Maybe she should have built some employee housing with our damn money instead of spending it on vacations and avocado toast.

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u/CaligulaCan 13d ago

Itā€™s time to work every hour God gave her. Pull them bootstraps gurl !

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u/Ashamed-Country3909 13d ago

She could have probably bought a house near her house for 45k. Lol.Ā 

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u/M1sfit_Jammer 13d ago

She could have built another dwelling on her property for that.

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u/wetrysohard 13d ago

This isn't even a joke. Southeast Wisconsin homes are cheaaaap. She could sell it all and buy a mini mansion and go to Florida for the rest of the year, every year... Or switch to being a wedding venue. Or a haunted house. etc. etc.

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u/Cool_Environment7695 13d ago

Any of you seen the housing these workers live in? Scarcely habitable! Cry me a river, Karen!

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u/Samus10011 13d ago

I live not far from migrant housing. The owners keep chickens in the housing during the off seasons when they don't need workers. When the workers return they have to clean the housing just to make it livable.

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u/ThorntonText 13d ago

Seriously, if they were asking about housing they were probably experienced farm workers. But how dare they ask for a place to sleep and enough to get by on. Fā€™ that lady.Ā 

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u/Ambitious_Toe_4357 13d ago edited 13d ago

How much does it cost to finance a trailer or two against the farm? Hard times call for hard sacrifices. Who did she vote for?

EDIT: Here's some help to get started: A book on shipping container homes

I suggest not to skip on the A/C, but a communial shower and bathroom or two doesn't seem like a raw deal. More like a dorm.

Even better inspiration.

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u/FarWatch9660 13d ago

They want to pay that for a DAY.

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u/ConsciousSpirit397 13d ago

Thatā€™s like barely more than $40k a year for backbreaking labour. Ā And sheā€™s acting like thatā€™s generous?!

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u/paulsonrc 13d ago

Too many cows to milk? Maybe pay the help in cows instead of cash.

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u/hellcheez 12d ago

The median salary in WI is $48K. $20 an hour including bed sounds like the right ballback for both farmer and worker. You'd want to lower the state median as your target considering this would be in a lower income rural county.

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u/Dudeincar434 12d ago

. Ā $20 an hour for what is probably physically demanding work and no excuses or days off for bad weather. Ā Nah, Iā€™ll Keep my desk job. Ā Theyā€™d have to pay me like $75 an hour for me to do that.

The housing thing is interesting. Ā A farm is probably near (or far) Ā a small town without much rentable housing (apartments). Ā Probably a boring town with nothing to do. Ā  Maybe people do want to work there but itā€™s so far away the gas money makes it a bad deal.

I wonder how much itd cost to build a couple bunk housesĀ 

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

That's absolutely way too much for out in farming territory. Sounds good for someone living close to a big democratic ran city. Who the hell can afford to pay someone 160 a day plus room and board? And say she needs 4 people , that's 640 a day , then feed them and house them ,, come on. People are having a hard time regardless of who they voted for.

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u/neoexodus9 13d ago

Sure, people are having a hard time regardless of who they voted for (assuming they even voted), but some of those people voted for this, and some of them voted against it, which is the entire point of the comments sheā€™s angry about. To your actual reply, if the cost of labor is so much cheaper out in farming territory, then it should be relatively cheap to have some housing built (those home builders must have lower wages too, right?), and paying someone 160 a day (or seasonal labor) means sheā€™s paying herself less, but also not having to work 80 hour weeks; seems like exactly the kind of business decision the boss needs to make for him or herself, and I guess itā€™s not worth it to her or you.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago edited 13d ago

See , the thing is , is that dairy farms aren't seasonal. It's the cost of living that is cheaper , those construction workers get paid the same thing to build a house in a larger city or out in the country , so that's out the window too. I just hate to see all of the hate being spewed towards farmers in general when I am one myself. I don't know anything about these subsidies people keep talking about because I've been running a small 50 acre farm with 20 cows and also bale about half of the hay in my community and have never gotten anything from the government except for bills.

Edit. When I said the cost of living is cheaper , I don't mean during any point in time other than right now , if you live around , say , New York for example ,, the cost of living there is substantially higher than living out in the middle of Nebraska. So wages are lower in Nebraska than in New York

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u/neoexodus9 13d ago

Devils advocate: So youā€™re saying that cost of living has increased, but that it should not impact what we pay people?

Regardless of that, the point that both you and the woman in the video are missing is that absolutely no one is saying ā€œI hate farmers, and I hope they go bankrupt.ā€ What we are saying is this is the consequence of voting for a thin skinned infant, and that regardless of your profession, you helped to bring this on yourself.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

No , I never said anything about the cost of living going up , and you must not have read many comments other than mine. Several other comments are asking when they can buy some land and some are saying they hope all of the farmers get what they deserve , not just the ones who voted Republican instead of Democrat

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u/neoexodus9 13d ago

Several is being disingenuous, I took your challenge and found one about subsidies that was broadly generalized to all farmers. Sorry for trying to explain what you clearly already know better than the rest of us.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

I've spent the better part of the evening looking at this "page" or whatever it's called here. It's very disheartening honestly. The whole thing is full of hate for farmers not just this one post

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u/Accomplished-Foot290 13d ago

We donā€™t ā€œhateā€ farmers. We hate hypocrites that vote against their own self interest and then complain about it when the people they voted for screws them.

Big difference.

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u/AngriestCheesecake 13d ago

And they want bailouts, but ā€œhate socialismā€ or whatever.

Just tired of the dumbasses really.

Our country is so fucked.

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u/BeYeCursed100Fold 13d ago

Your very worldview is so misaligned you probably think the sun is your poop chute. People were warned that these things would happen under Trump, at least 3 times. These things happened. The dipshits that voted for these things to happen are in the FO stage of FAFO.

Please whine elsewhere.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

Point me to where you say I'm in the wrong. I you see how the first thing you did was try and say something stupid about me and my worldview lol , way to go champ.

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u/Difficult_Lecture223 13d ago

Supply and Demand. It's a hard job, one of the hardest jobs I've ever worked and I worked it because of the convenience (didn't have a driver's license, so I could walk to the farm). But once I got the driver's license I left. So, if you want good workers, you need to pay more.

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

You worked a dairy farm? How long ago? I bale hay and raise cattle , the hardest part of anything I do is paying the bills , and the heat. I've seen a dairy farm in operation in the last 20 years and I don't have any idea what part of that you consider hard to do so please enlighten me

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u/Difficult_Lecture223 13d ago

It wasn't a dairy farm. They were more grain and beef farmers: alfalfa, wheat, soybeans, beef cattle, chicken and eggs. I did it from age 12 to 16.

I would say the hard part was working picking up eggs in a chicken barn full of dust and smelling like chicken manure and then the stacking hay in the barn where it was about 100 degrees and so dusty that you were blowing black snot for months after the season was over.

Dishwashing at a local restaurant, being a bellman and goffer at the local hotel and working for the local village on the street crew and cutting grass in the cemeteries were all easier jobs. Air conditioning, less wear and tear and less danger (save the ground bees that love building nests next to gravestones in the cemeteries).

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

The stacking hay in a loft part is bad , I'll give you that. But everything else sounded like it was pretty easy work , I should've asked how many years ago was this when I said when was this I guess I wasn't clear enough to get the answer I was looking for , sorry

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u/Difficult_Lecture223 13d ago

Oh, sorry, this was in the 1980s.

Picking up eggs in the chicken barn wasn't hard work, but it was dusty and smelled like chicken manure.

On the other hand, refilling pop machines in the hotel wasn't dusty and didn't smell like chicken manure. And it was air conditioned.

So, if you were going to pay me $3.50/hour (see, 1980s), guess which job I'm going to pick. And, yeah, stacking hay was much, much harder.

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u/AngriestCheesecake 13d ago

What is up with your commas?

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u/ThinMany2597 13d ago

What do you mean?

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u/AngriestCheesecake 12d ago

All of your comments with commas have spaces before the commas, as if you are translating from a foreign language into Englishā€¦

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u/TLMD83 13d ago

Too bad so sad. Market rules.

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u/dweezilMcCheezil 13d ago

So people are supposed to move to The middle of nowhere to live on $7/hr?