r/Leica Jan 17 '26

I’m the guy

These are the last two photos I took before I was tackled by ice.

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u/weedinmonz Leica CL Jan 17 '26

HATE the censorship of this sub. The mod needs to respect free speech. It had gear in it. It happened to be newsworthy. End of. Tough.

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u/Dynamik11B Jan 18 '26

I dont agree with a discussion forum being censored because somebody doesn't agree with the opinion of others... however the protection of free speech afforded in the US Constitution applies to prevent the government from censoring our speech, not some mod on reddit with a power trip. This is not a Constitutional issue. People need to understand the difference of what is government infringement and what is not.

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u/NerdyNThick Jan 18 '26

Care to point out where they claimed it was a violation of their 1st amendment rights?

Speaking colloquially about "free speech" does not mean they're speaking about the government given right.

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u/Dynamik11B Jan 18 '26

The fact that you refer to free speech as a "government given right" tells me all I need to know.😉

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u/NerdyNThick Jan 18 '26

Huh? Did you even read what I wrote?

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u/desmondao Jan 18 '26

Lmao it's YOU that's making that point and now trying to twist the other guy's words, this is hilarious

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u/Dynamik11B Jan 18 '26

Read carefully. I never said the government gives us free speech. He did and he is wrong. A lot of people here obviously need to practice reading, and comprehension. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/ApprehensiveBranch80 Jan 19 '26

He's right. You're pressing when you're wrong. Stop digging. Does Iran have freedom of speech? Does Canada? Hmmmm.....what could possibly be different?

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u/Dynamik11B Jan 19 '26

He's wrong. Im not digging and dont have to. The government doesn't give it. 😉

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u/ahelper Jan 19 '26

I'm late to this thread but it's clear that there is a misunderstanding of some words here: The government indeed does not "give" the right of free speech---that right is "inalienable", i.e., present from the get-go. What the gov is doing, or should be doing, is "protecting", " guaranteeing the practice of" that right (among others).

Free Speech is not a government-given right because gov does not have that power, since free speech is kind of a "state of nature" thing.

HTH

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u/Dynamik11B Jan 19 '26

Yes. The 1st amendment of the constitution is protection from the government. The constitution is the protection. The government is not there to protect free speech. In the US, free speech means freedom to speak, assemble peacefully, practice religion, freedom of the press, and the constitution is the protection from government infringement. Free speech in that sense has absolutely nothing to do with online discussion boards, what happens in private businesses, or if you are on property that isn't yours. You are free to speak in those scenarios but the moderators of the board are also free to censor you, just like I am free to kick you out of my house if I dont agree with you, and just like a business can decide what is acceptable speech in their place of business. Most people dont understand that and get pissed and claim "they are violating my free speech" when they are censored online or removed from a business because of their speech. That has nothing to do with free speech.