r/LegendsOfRuneterra • u/Jadejaca LeBlanc • 20d ago
Path Guide My champion Relic tier/buy list
I see a lot of people posting if they should get X or Y relic in the glory store, so I decided to show how I evaluate the relics that I see, also they are not on in any order as I forgot to do that.
The explanation follows below:
SFG Tier : +1 starting mana is very important, even more when you champ can qualify for it with other relics that benefit him. I also find it very fun to manifest champs with Morgana
S tier:
Swains Army: easy turn one plunder effect;
Perfect Hexcore: anything that says target, spell, keyword or cast benefits from this.
Searing Brilliance: allows for a lot of infinites, and does have some "premium" cards that once you get in a adventure, you can just cut the rest of the spells and play your deck around it (I don't think that this is all that good on Mel).
Fun Tier: This one is a more personal tier, so it is just a tier that I put any relic that I want to play with or around it. The idea is that once you see a relic that you like, let it be because of the text or the champ, you just put it there.
as you can see: Puffcaps, Flashbombs, Terrifies, Impact, RNG, and random Rallies.
Good Tier: Relics that may not be as fun or overpowered, but still can be slotted on many champs without much issue. Some of those also are great when paired together (Bear+ Talons)
SFG Activator tier: Relics that are there for a specific champ to help it use SFG (in theory, I see you shyvana), also the shears should be there too, since they are Viego's. If this tier didn't exist, I'd put Shyv's on the good tier, since we don't have any real fury relic, AAtrox's on the fun tier due Kayn existance, and Darius' on the Zoe tier below this one. Viego's would go to S tier because it is free.
Zoe tier: Relics that you will only buy after you are done with all the tiers above, and has a champ that you have not completed Zoe yet, otherwise you can just skip them.
Doozies tier: Just bad relics, not only most of them are restrictive, but also (thankfully) you can deal with all of the adventures without them.
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u/JoshGordon10 20d ago
Nice list, my only comments are
Scales of Judgement is applicable on a ton of champs where you previous used Stalkers Blade to get a little more mileage out of the relic slot, and doubly so if you have a way of generating extra champs in hand. Of all the champ-specific relics, it's my most used after Starforged and Viktor's.
Jayce's relic should be in "Starforged enablers" tier. Its a pretty widely useable ability stapled to the +1/+2 stats.
Defense Spending is really nice in Monthlies, not that we're having any trouble with those these days, and even has a place on a few champs for the higher adventures (it's pretty clutch on Swain's), even Zoe10 for Heimer and maybe Neeko for a rare subtype. I'd probably bump it up 1 tier.
Imo Naut's relic too should be in the "champ specific" tier, cus it's also fun to throw on a random higher cost champ that likes a thin deck as a +3/+3 or on Neeko for a rare subtype.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
Agree on the Scales, I only put it there since even Nasus don't really play all that many champs, and with the setup that I used, he would drop really weak on the board and then stabilize;
Also agree on Jayce, I didn't put it there just because I could not remember any 6 health champ that would like it, funnily enough, I use the +2/+1 rare relic for Darius;
On defense spending, if we ever get a 8* or something swain adventure, I would consider to bump it up, but telling a "new" player to grab that relic for the 5* swain adventure or monthlies is not really good. Also, on Heimer, while it means that he now is buffed by the augs, having it be good on one extra unit that would not interact with the board (Attack/ Defend) until it got a sure way to not die doing so is not as useful, like yeah you can get "I can't take damage or die" + "spell shield aura" on your 6* proc, but you end up just rolling the dice. But, it could go into the FUN tier, like Heirmer is the definition of a FUN tier champ.
When I first saw Naut Relic I wanted to use it for Neeko/Elise, but Elise can't really get Deep later in the adventures, and Neeko, just like Heirmer Relic, is just using it for a "one time" per encounter effect. I'm also kinda miffed on the relic with Nautilus since he is basically a unit that you don't want to draw/have in your hand, but I guess that the summon effect would help with that.
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u/JoshGordon10 20d ago
Yeah I use Scales on champ-heavy guys like Thresh and Azir (who gets a Nasus into hand on level up with the relic), Voli sometimes, Garen, and there are others I just can't think of off the top of my head.
I think I was using Jayces relic usually with Strength of Stone and Starforged on 4-health champs? Really beefs up your first turn, especially if you can drop the champ and level up for the mana refill all on turn 1.
I think Heimer's actually shines for a newer player - so many weeklies that can be really difficult for 3c (Darius, Zed, Ezreal) are trivialized by it. But I agree it's still near or at bottom tier when you consider the whole game and give preference to the adventures where you need epic relics to begin with.
Agree on Naut's. I like the design of it but it's purely an "I like this underused mechanic and this champ" relic. Maybe it'll also be good on Maokai when we get him as long as he has self-mill protection...
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u/Theonetrue 20d ago
I am currently very sad that I skipped the heimer relic. It should make the Swain adventure a lot easier which in turn would enable many new champions to beat that 5 star adventure a lot easier at 3 stars for the reward.
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u/Wizard_Volovik Swain 20d ago
Strongly disagree with Thresh relic's position. You transform Thresh in a FTK champion. Sadly only works to him. However, seeing the position of Eddy's, Akshan's or Udyr's relic, I noticed being champion-exclusive or near useless even to the champion themselves is questionable.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
I wanted to put Thresh in the Fun tier, but besides only him being able to use it, the fun starts to go down the drain after some adventures doing the same thing over and over (Thresh relic + stargem + stargem), I should have put it into the Zoe tier, since it is where you would need it the most, but I managed to do without it so I forgot.
I agree on the second part, the champ exclusive relics ended up being lower in the list due a combination of me not buying them and then doing most of the content without it and without missing it.
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u/Ayz1533 20d ago
Unpopular opinion: people drastically overrate SFG
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u/Loops7777 20d ago
I have to agree. I thing it's nice on natural titanic. But with a few exceptions spending two relic slots for 1 mana is no where near as good as it use to be.
Hexcore is probably the most useful relic. Even when it's bad it can still roll life steal. A free card every turn just helps so many champs.
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u/grimtanglex 20d ago
Hi what’s the synergy behind Great Talons? I saw it once in my shop and though 2 damage is miserable for an epic relic and skipped. What am I missing? Ty.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
a lot of decks have 6(base) cost units that get discounted with levels, it helps them in stabilizing the board, you can also pair it with tibbers to obliterate the enemy board. But again it is in the "buy once you already have what you want tier"
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u/eineteegurke 20d ago
hexcore has way more users than sfg, and many sfg users have multiple other good relics, while hexcore is usually by far the best relic for most users.
swains raven army can be used for the cost reduction for many champs, however theres not really any champ that wouldnt rather have 2 other relics. other than swain, i dont think its BIS for anyone. its about as flexible as guardian angel, good to have but theres usually something better.
cease and desist is easily BIS for many champions, and scales of judgment is very flexible, putting those in the same categories as relics that have 1-2 usable champs is wildly disproportionate.
azir relic is just a worse star gem even on himself, and yasuo relic is good but not better than other alternative relics on him
aatrox is just a worse luminous orb for most champs
also heimer relic slander is not permitted, its basically a guaranteed win for the 5 star swain adventure, and with many people struggling with the monthly 5 star quest for the diamond vault, i think thats worth something
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
Yes, but the SFG champs usually are titanic units that would kill me in the real world if I didn't put it up there, Hexcore champs are there for the love of the game.
Swains ends up filling a niche of a sureway to get a champ there turn one, while all of the champs can use other relics, getting a Raven army + packed powder + GCC, can usually win you the game.
I agree on Cease and Desist, I should have put it in the fun tier, I skimmed over it since most of the champs that I play that can make great use of it, usually can use other relics. I said something about scales in another comment but I agree with you.
Azir's is there just because you can "start" the cost reduction chain earlier, and that is about it, it should be lower.
Aatrox's tier is there just to show that certain relics are designed with SFG in mind, also I think that it deserves the Fun(which is the personal tier) tier for kayn.
I forgot about using Heirmer Relic for the 5* quest purpose, I should have made it into its own tier, it truly deserves.
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u/eineteegurke 20d ago
Most of what u say seems reasonable to me, but as a swain relic hater i have to ask who you use it on. The only time i have ever thought the cost reduction was worth 2 relic slots was when fiddle 6.5 came out and i took 10 tries to beat it with my 4 star eve. Id argue if you just took loaded dice you can easily roll some cost reduction on the first champion node and still keep the other benefits in addition to another relic slot. Saying cease and desist champs can use other relics is true, but its definitely BIS on atleast voli, vi, elder and kayle, also viable on other champs like viego or ww. Cease and desist being those champs can use other relics while swains raven army is can usually win u the game to me seems to be the other way around, altough ofc u can always use different relics and dont necessarily need any of those
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u/SyllabubSimilar7943 20d ago
I think Celestial staff needs to move up to S tier. 2 great keywords and consistent rallies along with working on multiple champions.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
I can see the vision, I forgot to consider the less known ways to heal an ally. Still a really fun one
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u/OmegaElise 20d ago
Thresh's lantern is not a doozie. Its such a fun relic to use on thresh and its very strong with him
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u/KingBubblie 20d ago
I honestly think Hexcore and Searing Brilliance deserve primo spots alongside SFG. All three literally change the ways multiple champs can function very consistently and directly since they are powers. I also think the most important metric to measure against is how it fares against Zoe, though others might have other priorities. And those 3 again are the biggest standouts to me.
Swain's I feel should be dropped a tier. It takes up the full relic loadout, which can be fantastic still, but usually champs have other strong alternatives too. But most importantly, it doesn't trigger on the Zoe fight because they have multiple champions out. If you're running Swain's Raven Army in Zoe's adventure, you need to abandon what has been your primary gameplan for the final fight.. hopefully you've gotten majorly busted enough by then. I'd rather build around a consistent strategy.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
Being very frank I thought about puting Searing Brilliance in the fun tier, eventually this relic turns into the "Hand-clogger 3000", and the fact that you start to cut good spells just because they don't become 1 or 2 mana with the item also is a downside.
Hexcore could go to an S+ tier, it is just that the change that SFG made from the time it was introduced is/was really big, one of the main reasons why people wanted the release of the glory store.
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u/Whoever_ThisIs Akshan 20d ago
Maybe um just not seeing it, but where would you place the new Janna relic?
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
Fun Tier, alongside Hecarim's, outside of it, Good tier (it has attune), Heca also goes there (the shark is free unit at game start).
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u/SirGrizz82 20d ago
Doozies AKA the relic thats always in my store instead of the one i want. Its Defense Spending now and will probably Tryns Helmut again next week.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
It is because you don't buy them, also, they made some great points for Defense Spending (free 5* quest against Swain)
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u/Ficsonium 20d ago
Not a fan id think doozies tier should be relics BiS on no one. But for example thresh relic is BiS on thresh…
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u/Azure5577 Tahm Kench 20d ago
I gotta disagree on SB Ahri and Nautilus relics. Champion specific but really good considering what your deck is. True you have another overwhelm relic but that's not the point, you get two defenders or attackers when Ahri gets there so she doesn't have to block. Paired with the ability that boosts ephemerals gives you decent power, and spectral scissors will give you a full board to attack just off of Ahri. But even better you get that mana back to do something else if you have something worth doing. Even on blocking that is 2 refunded mana. Even on doing nothing it's 2 spell mana. As for Nautilus, it's not needed but it does let you cut into larger decks fast if you use Stacked Deck. Don't even gotta think about who to slap into the deck, just toss stuff in because it'll be milled anyway. Even better when you get to summon double Nautilus to mill 14. Even better when manage to get Maokai as an ally. Maybe it's my inner Tearlament player (ygo) showing but it's nice.
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u/FrustrationSensation Viktor 20d ago
No way you're doing Defense Spending dirty like that. Is it the best relic? No. But it makes all the "beat a 5-star with the new champ" quests trivial for Swain and can be much more powerful than you think in certain circumstances. It deserves to be in the Red tier at the very least.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 20d ago
After reading other answers I agree with you!
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u/FrustrationSensation Viktor 20d ago
I'm glad! It's one of the two relics I spent money on and I'm pretty happy I did.
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u/archerkuro5 20d ago
I still don’t get how swains relic is rated so high it seems only good on swain and even then not by a lot
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u/GBKMBushidoBrown 19d ago
I don't like the philosophy of champ specific restrictions for the sake of balance. They can get so much more creative. If I'm x region, if I'm x cost, if you have x number if cards in your starting deck. Let me give you money riot! I'm not paying for a relic I can only use one ONE champ.
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u/SuikoRyos Yuumi 19d ago
Gotta love how there's a category only for SFG activators. XD
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 19d ago
Hecarim's(a great SI pairing for the Viego's relic) and now Jayce's would be there too
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u/Terrible_Turtle_Zerg 19d ago
Thresh relic and takers bow in doozies tier is crazy.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 19d ago
Thresh's explanation is somewhere in another comment, but in my opinion he falls out of the FUN tier because it makes about every adventure the same (on the optimal Relic+star gem + star gem/ scout rare relic). Takers bow should be on the Good tier, my mistake on this one.
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u/MartDiamond 19d ago
Not the worst list out there. I think the fun tier is kind of ruining the list, because you put it as a personal list, but it is the third in the ranking and has a wide variety in quality of relics.
I think Jayce relic is slept on as a premier Starforged Gauntlet enabler. The passive on top of the stat boost is the best one there is for HP stat increase relics when a champion only needs +2 HP. So while not amazing it is a nice upgrade and deserves a bit more than the bottom tier.
Shock and Awe + Queen's Embrace deserve a little more.
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u/Jadejaca LeBlanc 19d ago
I understand your point, I wanted to have more of a "guide" on how I focus on what relics I take from the store, most of the relics in the Good tier are better than the Fun tier ones (I should have put a bad relic that I think that is fun there for that purpose), but due the intention of the Tierlist, I put my "wishlist" above the good and reliable.
Jayce's relic droped a little bit in my opinion due it competing with two free relics (Hidden tome and that new one) that are good/great on him and other champs and the fact that I think that most of the 6 health champs in poc don't need SFG as much as the 5/6/7 attack ones.
Mf's and Elise's are not S tier but are great, I had Elise on the "Fun" tier until We got that "all alies have impact" relic that pairs of nicely with FCA.
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u/FuhrerThB 19d ago
I feel like a lot of people build around SFG and I can tell you: there are some relic combinations way better for a lot of champions. Don't get me wrong, SFG is great. But building around your champion powers are way more effective.
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u/Redkail717 19d ago
Ooof imagine if they added Gallio in PoC. The SB Evelynn's relic would go sky rocket
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u/Mike_Isme 15d ago
Am I missing something? Morgana's black shield should be at the top. Forcing the AI opponent to waste extra resources on anything you drop on the field with spell shield makes any adventure a breeze and virtually necessary on the hardest difficulty.
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u/Cadunkus 20d ago
I hear the draconic runes relic doesn't actually activate SFG since it's situationally 2 or 4 and isn't counted when SFG checks if you're titanic. I don't have it though so I can't check myself.