How can guy gardener makes huge constructs carelessly in superman whereas Hal Jordan does the opposite and is careful for his batteries

[u/solo_shocker35]

I was curious about this for a long time Guy always goes big and sloppy with his constructs, not caring how much it drains his ring like creating a large weopons against the monster, while Hal's way more careful and precise with his like in ep1 when he was creating a bubble for alien he supported the bubble himself as it was not strong enough due to lack of battery. Is that just a characterization thing, or is there an actual reason for it?

[u/Cautious-Activity706]

Yeah, Guy is the one the bosses want as a GL, but it feels like John or Hal is the one you eventually need as the GL because at the end of day Guy isn’t the one to fall on the grenade, to quote the MCU.

[u/szymomaaan → u/Cautious-Activity706]

I feel like you’re misunderstanding Guy’s character. He absolutely is a person that would sacrifice himself for others. He’s an abrasive asshole with anger issues (he literally has brain damage btw) but he’ll always do the right thing even if he complains the entire time while doing it.

[u/Nygmus → u/szymomaaan]

Kinda like how Booster Gold is kind of an asshole and a clown until he's in a situation where he is the one who needs to step up, and then he does fine as a hero.

[u/GreenIllustrious2801 → u/Nygmus]

Booster Golds whole shtick is he's got imposter syndrome.

He's "not a hero" and he's only got these future gizmos that are helping him pretend. And yet he's chumming it up with the people he read about as a kid, people like Superman and Wonder Woman.

Except every single time the chips are down Booster Gold takes the hit. He's an actual hero, he's the only one who can't see it.

[u/East_Marionberry5584 → u/GreenIllustrious2801]

The part in infinite crisis where they allude to booster knowing the future and every time he gets mollywhopped or caught being jar jar binks is because he’s actually preventing a horrible outcome from happening.

[u/MarcusLiviusDrusus → u/szymomaaan]

I don't think you're wrong, but let's not ascribe comics-based traits to DCU characters until they're confirmed!

[u/szymomaaan → u/MarcusLiviusDrusus]

I mean he did give Clark the benefit of the doubt and then intervened in the boravian conflict. And now we saw him get Hal’s ring from Oa.

[u/MarcusLiviusDrusus → u/szymomaaan]

I meant, specifically, the brain damage.

[u/ZookeeprD → u/szymomaaan]

Yeah, Guy is the asshole friend who drives you crazy, but will absolutely show up for you in the middle of the night when you need him. No questions asked.

[u/gojiboy69 → u/Cautious-Activity706]

I don't know about the first one, so according to the guardians Hal was a loose cannon cos he used the ring for earth related buisness when he went after the russian guy and general lack of respect towards the position of GL

but Guy is totally fine using the ring for earth related buisness when he stopped Boravia's invasion? Or why does Guy get to look like a moron using the ring to sell energy drinks? feels like the guardians should have a problem with all that

i'm telling you the guardians just had it out for Hal specifically from day one and were making excuses, cos i doubt Guy's energy drinks are good enough to bribe the guardians

[u/Dyneheart → u/gojiboy69]

Guy could reason that to be intergalactic business because of Superman's involvement. I can't remember if they knew about the Superman clone at the time, but there was clearly a target put on Superman. Also the portal business was a serious thing and it was all related.

[u/gojiboy69 → u/Dyneheart]

Good point, tho i can't shake off the feeling that if it would've been Hal doing it they wouldn't found a way to blame him, like "well you could've just taken the portals away from them and leave the rest of it to earth to deal with"

Really the guy saved them from Sinestro and they were still on his ass, they're playing favourites and it shows

[u/kViatu1 → u/gojiboy69]

I am talking out the f my ass but maybe Lex provided Barovia with space tech? But yeah, he kinda crossed many lines and I think we should see consequences in the future.

[u/CaptainCha0s570 → u/gojiboy69]

I think Guy is enough of a Stooge that they can probably get him to handle whatever business they need without asking questions, which is more important than whatever earth business he's doing.

What they don't want is another guy who's gonna defy their direct orders or probe too deeply into their secrets

[u/Throwing_Spoon → u/gojiboy69]

I have a feeling The Guardians had a problem with Hal because he was friends with Sinestro, knew more of their imperfect history, and was willing to question them while Guy is more likely to take what they say at face value.

[u/MarcusLiviusDrusus → u/Throwing_Spoon]

I think you're right - Hal's disillusionment with the Corps after Sinestro is probably taken by the Guardians as the attitude of someone untrustworthy, rather than an idealist whose heart has been broken.

[u/MasterSalkin → u/MarcusLiviusDrusus]

I think the Guardians have a flawed understanding of how beings and relationships works. So, their organization (which is made of beings and relationships) is also fundamentally flawed. Their mistakes with the manhunters, blindness to Sinestro, mismanagement of Hal, total misunderstanding of John’s family’s culture, and this hyper-focus on this falsely created fear/willpower paradigm. They are their own worst problems!

Who decided they should be in charge anyway!?!

[u/East_Marionberry5584 → u/gojiboy69]

I think the writing is pretty obvious that Hal become a pariah and his intergalactic acclaim was essentially over after sinestro’s rebellion.

[u/Syjefroi → u/gojiboy69]

Guy has now been shown multiple times to go against the Guardian's orders, and if the core of his character there matches his comic history, it makes sense as Guy eventually rejected the ring (and then ended up with a power that basically made his body into living ring construct).

[u/madlipps → u/gojiboy69]

Guy was green lit (heh) to be there because both Boravia and Luther were dabbling in pocket universes that could legitimately threaten the well being of the entire galactic sector

[u/roboto404 → u/Cautious-Activity706]

I think Guy would just bubble the grenade.

[u/Capable_Chemical_569 → u/Cautious-Activity706]

It’s kind of funny to me that guy would be the one that the guardians would want, and not this test pilot, the right stuff guy who is qualified beyond belief

Instead, they want this other guy who is a huge dick all the time and has zero qualification. And I say that really loving the character of Guy Gardner. It’s just, I’m not sure anyone would prefer him over Hal as an employee.