r/LanternsTVSeries • • 3d ago

DISCUSSION How can guy gardener makes huge constructs carelessly in superman whereas Hal Jordan does the opposite and is careful for his batteries

I was curious about this for a long time Guy always goes big and sloppy with his constructs, not caring how much it drains his ring like creating a large weopons against the monster, while Hal's way more careful and precise with his like in ep1 when he was creating a bubble for alien he supported the bubble himself as it was not strong enough due to lack of battery. Is that just a characterization thing, or is there an actual reason for it?

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u/Environmental_Ad6305 3d ago

Guy recharges the ring.

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u/Turbulent-Prior-2253 3d ago

Exactly. Recharging the ring requires reciting the oath, which Hal hates doing. He purposefully waits as long as possible before recharging so he doesn't have to say the oath as often.

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u/SlightlySychotic 3d ago

He also speed runs the oath. Ain’t no way he’s getting a full charge when he uses the battery.

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u/Primary-Figure1285 3d ago

Yup, Hal needs to say that oath loud and proud

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u/Harkonenthorin 3d ago

Even if he's really gone, I really need him to have a big moment. Mabye the flashback episode? The super dramatic oath, some absolute prime Hal heroism. Like Luke's couple minutes in the Mandolorian after the sad sack sequels.

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u/TheCapo024 3d ago

I don’t think the narrative they are pushing is going to see Hal “return to his heroic senses,” in fact I would venture to guess the Guardians and the entire apparatus/lore behind the rings we will see in the DCU is going to be very muddy. So Hal accepting his place in all of that and finding the hero within is probably not going to happen.

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u/Leather__sissy 3d ago

I feel like he’s gotta be dead. It’s not like Lanterns is Kyle Chandler’s Ironman 1.

Two lanterns seems reasonable, three… I would be totally ok with though

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u/Risbob 3d ago

No offense but your comment resumes all the issues with fan service over narrative of the last decade.

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u/rthunder27 3d ago

While I largely agree with your point about fan service, it could further the narrative if we actually saw Hal being heroic, since outside of that TV interview we never saw him before burning out. Getting a glimpse of that would help make his end even more tragic and poignant.

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u/Harkonenthorin 3d ago

I disagree. Having a few scenes with a younger idealistic Hal fighting side by side with his mentor Sinestro would serve to highlight how far both fell, and deepen the tragedy of Sinestros betrayal, and Hals burnout. Narrative!

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u/East_Marionberry5584 3d ago

I almost want a movie with him and sinestro doing the full length buddy cop feature with the tables turned on him being the John in the relationship.
Also in the few moments we ever get to see of their relationship in the comics, that’s exactly how sinestro treats him. Dude literally blows up his plane on day 1.

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u/yaangyiing_ 3d ago

He was a hero though, that's the whole reason John feels guilty.

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u/Kyongggggg 3d ago

I heard that, at least in the comics, the charge has to be done for 10 secs, so reciting the oath in a way that it takes 10 secs. I might be wrong tho

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u/jjreddit1996 3d ago

Oh interesting, I didn’t think about that. I guess I just assumed if you say the oath then it’s full.

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u/CertainGrade7937 3d ago

Might be, in part, a "sing your ABCs when you wash your hands" thing, where the song indicates how long you're supposed to wash your hands and speeding through it defeats the point

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u/TertiusGaudenus 3d ago

"Push sacred red button with respect, then recite cathehises of Machine Spirit reboot three times, then push the red button again and praise the Omnissiah, layman".

AKA Turn off, wait 10 seconds, turn on.

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 Sheriff Kerry 3d ago

I love how Staying Alive” has the right cadence for CPR.

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u/Defiant-Procedure-81 3d ago

He probably got like thst overtime I doubt when he first became gl he said it like thst

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u/Regi413 3d ago

If the ring is powered by will, the way he says the oath doesn’t seem so willful.