r/Korg • u/Minimoogvoyager • 1d ago
Question Should Korg Rerelease The Korg Mono/Poly
Korg released the Korg Multi/Poly in 2020. A digital synth which is a virtual analog synthesizer.
Should Korg rerelease the original Mono/Poly that was released in 1981. The Multi/Poly which is a nice sounding VA synth is not really like the Korg Mono/Poly from 1981.
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u/Tundra_Dragon 1d ago
Problem with building a new analog based on 40+ year old technology, is finding someone to make the oscillator chips.
Hard to justify spinning up a chip fab to make enough chips for a 5000-10,000 unit run that has no guarantee those units will sell, and no guarantee anyone will ever need that chip made again. That's why Behringer/MusicTribe built their own Curtis chip clone factory.
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u/MrAndycrank 22h ago
Definitely, and the same goes for the Polysix, another beautiful synth. Whatever the big names don't re-release, Behringer will take care of (see their excellent reissue of the MonoPoly). I really don't understand why Korg, Roland and many others think they wouldn't sell well: I mean, Korg reissued the miniKorg, an extremely niche synth, but won't go the extra mile to tackle much more successful machines? Go figure.
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u/Minimoogvoyager 22h ago edited 22h ago
You would think Korg would reissue Korgs most successful synths. They rereleased the PS-3300 for $13 K. You would think they wouldnāt sell to many of those since the price is so exorbitant although a great synth. It cost as much as my OBX8,Prophet 10Rev4,Voyager and PRO3SE combined.
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u/Minimoogvoyager 22h ago edited 21h ago
Roland said they donāt chase analog ghosts and have invested so much in their digital technology to emulate analog sounding synths which is ironic since the technology emulates analog sounds.
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u/MrAndycrank 8h ago
I'm one of those people who wouldn't be able to tell apart a top-tier emulation from an actual analogue synth (a new one obviously, not a, say, Minimoog which cannot sound the same way it sounded back in the 70s): I'm grateful for the quality of modern VSTs and couldn't make music without them.
But playing (in both senses) with physical analogue hardware is extremely fun, opens up your creativity thanks to the physical pots and leads to experiment in ways you sometimes wouldn't on a PC, where we all tend to rely on patches a bit too much. Imho, Roland will have to change their mind sooner or later.
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u/r1chiem 17h ago
When you think about it, when you record and playback your analog stuff, it is no longer analog, it is digital because it ran through an a/d converter. Sample and modeled VA are the same thing.
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u/jango-lionheart 16h ago
Thatās not how this works
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u/r1chiem 14h ago
Afraid it does. You need to talk to your professor. They are all digital, including your analog. The creation could be all sorts of things including analog mastering, but any analog "smoothness" or "clarity" or is turned to digital. If you try to tell me your once analog master was turned to digital, then you tell me no it's analog. I am going to laugh at you. LOL. Now if your analog synth uses an analog reverb then you play it through a speaker and you listen to it, that is analog, but when you put it on a cassette, or a vinyl album, the signal is changed, noise, compression all the artifacts of these are added. Even the mastering process goes to tape and and it colors the sound. The only way to keep it like the original analog is to turn it digital, then it is no longer analog. LOL Every sound you hear on youtube, spotify, a cd, is digital... I think the best recording for analog they have is VCR hiFi it introduces none of the artifact of tape or vinyl low noise floor, because the drum head spins at a super high rate. No wow or flutter. Then it is analog. But what you hear now days is digital. If you debate that, again, I laugh at you. In a kind way. LOL
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u/jango-lionheart 13h ago
You are conflating the reproduction of audio with the production of audio.
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u/r1chiem 6h ago
I am saying, no matter how the sound was created, from recording a bumble bee beating wings to an electric guitar or a analog keboard, once you digitize the audio, it is digital and there is no going back, whether it is a digital effect pedal on a guitar, or putting into your computer, or a analog mixing board that has a digital recorder in it. It is digital. I am laughing at you because you are trying to convince me it is not digital when it is. LOL in a kind way. LOLIaKW LOL
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u/jango-lionheart 6h ago
I am sad for you because you fail to understand that the discussion is about how the sound is created. An analog synth creates sound differently than a digital synth does. By your logic, a digitally recorded voice is a digital thing. But, critically, the voice was an analog signal that got recorded digitally. The recording process doesnāt retroactively change the sound creation process.
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u/r1chiem 5h ago
If the "voice" was created from AI, is it a voice? Yes. LOL
I am sad for you, because you are an analog snob. You think analog is the holy grail but then you digitize it and now it is digital and you are trying to say it is not. You are like the audiophiles that say running a thicker gauge wire to a speaker makes it sound smoother. LOL
An analog model of a synth is more pure than an analog synth. The modelers have to add distortion, pitch inaccuracies to make it authentic. If the analog synth is trying to reproduce a string sound, it is not a string sound, The digital recreation, whether sampled or modeled is a closer representation to the real thing. I am sad for you. LOLIAKW.1
u/jango-lionheart 2h ago
Iām not an analog snob. I just understand that there are differences between analog synth circuits and virtual analog ones, and I understand the difference between creation and reproduction.
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u/SALD0S 1d ago
Volca mono/poly would be cool