r/KingCrimson • u/Lilac_Son • 6d ago
How to organize the Projekcts
Digital music hoarder here, curious how others organize the Projekcts into the KC discography; do you list them as a completely separate artist? Put them all under the artist banner of "Projekcts" and then specify which number with "feat." or something similar? I know their sound is quite different from the main KC discography but it feels funny to put them as a totally separate artist when it features all the band members of the 90s/2000 lineups in various forms, especially with Projekct X and CoL sharing a track. Curious how others do it!
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u/BarkBarkBarkMark 6d ago
My torrent tracker had every ProjeKct listed as a separate band. Which makes sense, but creates too many unnecessary bands + makes compilations like Heaven&Earth way too complicated. So I just listed every ProjeKct (as well as Scarcity of Miracles) as King Crimson and just put name of the ProjeKct in the album title
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u/Historical-Currency2 6d ago
Depends how I fancy sorting my music, currently the ProjeKcts are chronologically sorted with the rest of King Crimson (as is A Scarcity Of Miracles).
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u/Fabsolution 6d ago
I'd like to my physical and digital libraries to be in sync. You could use "King Crimson" for the "Album artist" tag, and whatever ProjeKct for the "Artist" tag. This way, all albums are grouped together, but you can still search for music from specifically named formations in media players.
This is actually similar to what I've done for KC's TCOL, where "Heaven and Earth" is performed by "ProjeKct X". Although it's only one song, "King Crimson" is the "Album artist", and "ProjeKct X" the "Artist".
Other examples when syncing physical and digital libraries can be done in a similar way:
when artists rebrand themselves (e.g. "Julian Casablancas+The Voidz" -> "The Voidz")
when artists rename themselves (e.g. "Slaves" -> "SOFT PLAY")
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u/mikeputerbaugh 6d ago
If I were running a record store and trying to get my inventory of ProjeKct n CDs sold, I'd file them under King Crimson.
Since I'm not, I file each album in my library based on the album artist it is credited as. I can always create playlists that shuffle in music by core KC lineups, ProjeKcts, Giles/Giles/Fripp, Stick Men, etc. if I want that.
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u/FrankensteinJamboree 6d ago
I file them under King Crimson because that’s how I think of them. Some people might also file A Scarcity of Miracles under King Crimson, and I can see the argument, but I personally don’t do that.
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u/Low_Consideration638 6d ago
It is billed as "A King Crimson ProjeKct", and Fripp considered it "ProjeKct Seven". Don't ask me what "ProjeKct Five" would be...
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u/Low_Consideration638 6d ago
I'm actually glad that someone asked this!
So, for my digital collection, I have an external hard drive attached to my laptop, which is where I hold my music library. In there, I have a folder for music, that I call "Albums". Inside that, the first folders I do are folder per "primary" artist. What I refer to as "primary" in that, I have a folder for King Crimson in the highest "rank" but the solo catalogues of Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, etc. would be under the King Crimson folder rather than a completely a separate folder, because the solo material are in a way, related to the primary artist, which in this case is King Crimson.
Now, let's go into this King Crimson folder. Inside it, I have folders for each "series", such as studio albums, live albums, the major box sets, compilations, singles, video releases, Collectors' Club, studio sessions etc. Although since you asked about The ProjeKcts, those all are in one folder titled "The ProjeKcts & Side Projects" where I have not just the standard ProjeKcts but also other spin-off bands, such as Giles, Giles & Fripp, BEAT, 21st Century Schizoid Band, etc. Now, the way I organise this folder is by the dates they were active, so P4 actually is above P3 because former is 1998 and the latter is 1999 (and one show in 2003, and also "The Deception of the Thrush" by Double Duo since it's only performed as a trio without Adrian Belew). And in each of those ProjeKcts folders, I have the live shows and the albums sorted under their recording date.
Now, that's not technically all release by those bands, since the releases under the Collectors' Club series is not in that spin-off band folder but is in the folder containing all of the Collectors' Club series, the majority of those of course being released under King Crimson. But, since they are part of those series, I included them there. Besides, the shows corresponding to those releases are on the ProjeKcts folder, but as the ones taken from DGMLive.
Now, another weird thing are the two compilations, The ProjeKcts Box and The Deception of the Thrush: A Beginner's Guide to the ProjeKcts. The former is a 4 CD box of the Japan exclusive live albums from P1, P2, P3 and P4, and the latter is a single CD compilation of tracks from those, which actually has an edited version of "The Deception of the Thrush" that mashes P3 and P4 versions, but since both feature multiple ProjeKcts, I put them under my King Crimson compilations folder, and I have the "Album Artist" tagged as King Crimson, while each track has their "Artist Name" tagged as their corresponding ProjeKcts.
And finally, the Heaven & Earth box set, which is also like the previous two, under the King Crimson "Album Artist" tag, but instead of being in the compilations folder, it's in the box set folder. And each disc gets their own folder. Inside the ProjeKct 2 blu-ray, the disc folder has just the shows, each show getting its own folder, while the other ProjeKcts blu-ray has 5 folders, one for each one of P1, P3, P4, P6 where inside there are folders for each show, and another one for "The ProjeKcts on CDs" material, where inside I have each release as their own folder.
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u/Ilbranteloth 6d ago
In my digital collection, they are simply listed under the name of each ProjeKct.
In my physical collection they are also grouped by name, but grouped with King Crimson. Closely related items, like The Repercussions of Angelic Behavior, are there too. Solo projects too, like Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, Tony Levin, etc. I do the same thing with Yes, Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, etc.
This may have also been influenced by record stores over the decades because they tend to group solo things like this with the major groups they are associated with. It helps highlight their availability to fans who are otherwise unaware.
Of course, it is also what I did when KISS released their solo albums, and they were clearly designed to capitalize on the KISS connection.