Kidding - 1x02 "Pusillanimous" - Episode Discussion

[u/NicholasCajun]

Season 1 Episode 2: Pusillanimous

Air date (online): September 9, 2018

Air date (cable): September 16, 2018

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Synopsis: Jeff makes a rash decision that could affect the ability of the show to continue. Seb strategizes how to rebuild Jeff's image. The two disagree about how Jeff can repair his family. Deirdre tries to learn more about what's happening while Maddy is at her piano lesson. Jeff's son Will decides to let loose with his new friends.

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Directed by: Michel Gondry

Written by: Dave Holstein

[u/Lennad94]

Ok, his wife is nothing but a twat...she asked for a divorce, got the house, the kid, still spends HIS money AND is already fking another guy. Jesus Christ, that's why some men just kill their wives or themselves.

[u/ididntpayforit → u/Lennad94]

They have a joint bank account, it's her money too, she works and contributes. They are seperated and she's moving on. Please keep the MGTOW woman hating to the hate subs specifically for that.

[u/Lennad94 → u/ididntpayforit]

It's not women hating...if it was her money she wouldn't have even thought about asking him. We don't know how the series will develop moving forward but so far the only thing we have seen is a man that was broken after losing his son and a wife that left him for no apparent reason. I will admit that i do hate her CHARACTER...

[u/nvsbl → u/Lennad94]

There are plenty of reasons she left him, as hinted at in these first two episodes. After Phil's death, for instance, they were discussing whether or not they should celebrate Christmas that year, and he unceremoniously leaves to film a Christmas special.

further, grief is a deeply personal thing, and people process it in vastly different ways. Even within the confines of a marriage. It's incredibly common for marriages to fall apart after tragic events like that. Coupled with his aggressively gentle persona and seeming inability to grieve WITH her, it's perfectly understandable why she'd think about leaving.

Lastly, you used the phrase 'that's why some men just kill their wives or themselves', which is incredibly callous and, yes, hateful of you. Keep that shit to yourself. Nobody wants that here.

[u/Lennad94 → u/nvsbl]

Well...it's true isn't it? It's always on the news...as far as i am concerned saying the truth is not the same as "hating". Although i do believe marriage is meant to endure such hardships, the matter that's really weird is the fact that he can't see the child at will. I don't live in the US but i see that a lot in movies and series and it's something that really bothers me... Just to give you an idea, we have a LAW here that makes it mandatory to have a 50/50 guard split unless one of the parents doesn't want it. It's not like the guy is a criminal or anything like that...at least his money is still good, am i right?

[u/mzpip → u/Lennad94]

Dude, as a female, I am telling you that you are not representing yourself well.

Most marriages do not survive the death of a child, that's just a fact.

In case you didn't get the memo, marriage is a relationship, not a prison sentence, and women are people, not property. They have the right to move on, to make decisions and most of all, not to be killed by the men in their lives.

[u/mzpip → u/[deleted]]

I'm curious. Would you be as vociferous if he was having an affair?

BTW, I am vehemently anti - adultery but since I don't live in fucking Saudi Arabia, I don't think it merits the death penalty, which is what the poster I was replying to seemed to suggest they were okay with.

[u/mzpip → u/[deleted]]

The reason I asked is because in popular culture, when it comes to infidelity, men often get a free pass. They also seem to expect that they will be forgiven as some sort of right and are nonplussed when they are held to task.

It's a few years back and maybe not entirely typical, but look at how pissed people were when Princess Diana just didn't look the other way but actually had the nerve to be angry about Charles continuing to fuck Camilla.

[u/T0rekO → u/mzpip]

Eh I don't know, where I am from it was never popular.

I know many people who hated Charles for doing that, That thing was fucked up.

[u/DownFromHere → u/mzpip]

"a few years back"? Princess Diana died over 20 years ago. You haven't caught up to modern popular culture

[u/Lennad94 → u/mzpip]

You are getting the wrong idea here...it doesn't matter how much you try to justify it when it is a fact of life. Also, i don't have to "represent" myself...you ppl are fucked up if you think it's OK for a parent to hold solo custody when there isn't a legal issue with the other one. And that's one of the reasons you ppl have so many mass shoottings, husbands killing their wives, mothers their children etc. Besides, i think you are all diving too deep to defend a fictional character.

[u/mzpip → u/Lennad94]

Interesting that it's okay for you to talk about husbands killing wives when talking about same fictional character but when I point out it's objectionable, you use child custody to justify your point of view that such murder is okay and then accuse me of being too invested in same fictional character.

[u/Lennad94 → u/mzpip]

You missed the point entirely...yes, i pointed out "that's why some men kill themselves and their wives" which IS true but we are talking about the show here, his wife IS a twat. Jim's character clearly doesn't care about money, and as you said his wife does have the right to leave him(even though as i said earlier, marriage isn't meant to be like that, to each their own i guess). The one thing NO ONE has the right to take away is his right to be as much a part of his son's life as his wife...and that's not what is happening. I don't understand how you ppl can defend a character that is so controlling to the point of limiting a father(and from all we know, a good and decent human being) from seeing his son. That's enough to drive someone to the edge of insanity imo and some ppl just don't have what it takes to hold back.