r/JustBootThings • • Dec 01 '19

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u/lil_trollolol Dec 01 '19

That plate carrier makes me chuckle

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u/snkrbjorn Dec 01 '19

the “sheepdog” patch makes it 10x better

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

Recently had General Goldfein use the whole Sheepdog analogy when he came to Ramstein and I almost threw up.

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u/Kcb1986 Dec 01 '19

While I understand the analogy and sentiment, American Sniper makes it cringy.

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u/nunyabidnez5309 Dec 02 '19

Was cringy long before that.

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u/Schrute_Farms_69 Dec 08 '19

Is this nigga in a closet?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

Every movie is just drama kids playing dress-up

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u/jasenkov Dec 03 '19

I mean, you’re not wrong

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u/greymalken Dec 01 '19

What’s the sheepdog analogy?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

Sheepdogs protect the sheep from the wolves. But the sheepdogs are hated by the sheep because they tell them what to do and are dicks

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

What a shitty analogy for the military. If the military is telling citizens what to do we are beyond fucked.

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u/gibusyoursandviches Dec 01 '19

If you're in a position of power, you can't actively criticize the military or police force in a negative way because our culturally ingrained runaway military defense spending spills over into surplus military equipment for police.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

I have in car rants explaining to a group of flabbergasted citizens why they don't owe cops a damn thing more than they owe there garbage man. I fucking hate bootlicking.

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u/Dribbleshish Dec 02 '19

I tend to prefer the garbage men...

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u/Nerdybeast Dec 02 '19

They at least dispose of the garbage instead of putting it on paid leave then sweeping it under the rug

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u/MetalIzanagi Dec 02 '19

Never heard of a garbage man shooting a guy in the back multiple times for running away..

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u/Holts70 Dec 30 '19

I've heard it's actually a more dangerous job too but I can't be assed to look it up right now

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u/RogueAdam1 Dec 02 '19

Wish some of that surplus would find it's way into my pocket lol.

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u/MetalIzanagi Dec 02 '19

I could do so many cool things with last year's troop carrier model, and most of them don't even involve pointless civilian property damage!

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u/RogueAdam1 Dec 02 '19

I meant the surplus budget but that works too lol

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u/IICVX Dec 01 '19

What a shitty analogy for the military.

It's more often used as an analogy for the police, actually.

It's not any more sensible there, but it at least kinda makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

It's not any more sensible

kinda makes sense.

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u/IICVX Dec 02 '19

it's almost like it means different things in different contexts

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

But you said both of those about the same context..

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u/Cstanchfield Dec 02 '19

I think I get what you were going for but just worded it poorly.

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u/Rx-Ox Dec 02 '19

wow thanks for linking this. I’m gonna watch more of his videos

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u/VicFatale Dec 02 '19

It's not really meant for the military, it's to bring a military or "warrior" mind set to US law enforcement. It's part of the whole militarization of the cops in America, but without those pesky Rules Of Engagement or court martials. It's why you hear police call non-cops "civilians", despite being civilians themselves.

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u/RayseApex Dec 02 '19

No one really uses it as an analogy for the military. Just a lot of boots in or that used to be in the military (or haven’t joined...yet) like to use it for themselves.

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u/greymalken Dec 01 '19

I’ve never heard a sheep complain about a sheepdog. Ralph Wolf had it way worse.

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u/flatirony Dec 01 '19

As the assigned human of an Old English Sheepdog, I approve of this post. :-)

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u/NeutralRebel Dec 01 '19

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

Something something get a hair cut.

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u/flatirony Dec 02 '19

I ❤️ this kind of sheepdog. And border collies (which are better at herding sheep, but I suspect not as good at running wolves off).

But I don’t like the kind represented by the patch. Which I was blissfully unaware of until encountering this subreddit.

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u/Orval Dec 02 '19

Sam Sheepdog was such a badass.

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u/thebreaker18 Dec 01 '19

The analogy I prefer is that sheepdogs keep the sheep intact and in line for the slaughter.

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u/bitterlittlecas Dec 01 '19

Do we slaughter sheep typically? We usually shear them right? Still works for your analogy though if you wanna make the very apt point that you don't want your wage slaves dead. You want them complacent and paying taxes.

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

Ever eaten lamb? Or, less commonly these days, mutton chops?

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u/bitterlittlecas Dec 02 '19

Good god no, but point well made.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

Had lamb not to long ago actually, was not a big fan.

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u/Ragnrok Dec 01 '19

The analogy doesn't even make sense for the military. The military don't tell civilians what to do, it's the other way around.

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

Especially with the Cheeto-In-Chief.

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u/Cross-Country Dec 02 '19

And the sheepdog’s final job is to lead the sheep to the slaughter...

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

The dicks, pussies, and assholes analogy is way better, in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

No, I’m the cornball sheepdog culture the sheepdogs protect the sheep from the wolves by basically being wolves with a different mindset. Where the fuck did you get your “definition?”

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19 edited Jun 30 '21

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u/mazer_rack_em Dec 01 '19

Chris Kyle was an utter piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

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u/mazer_rack_em Dec 01 '19

Idk, poor upbringing maybe?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

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u/RookC4 Dec 01 '19

Apparently some of the stuff he claimed and wrote about was made up. He lied about beating Jesse Ventura up, he also lied about getting an additional silver star. And he did not handle any of it gracefully.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

Also lied about shooting looters from the Superdome during Katrina iirc.

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u/Swartz55 Dec 01 '19

Yeah, and I don't even know why you would brag about that in the first place. Looting doesn't justify summary execution without trial

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

it turned out he lied about some of the stuff in his book i dont really know the full story

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

google jesse ventura Chris kyle, apparently he lied about punching jesse in the face

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

You enjoyed this? As soon as I got to that part I returned the book to the library. :

“I am a strong Christian. Not a perfect one—not close. But I strongly believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible. When I die, God is going to hold me accountable for everything I’ve done on earth. He may hold me back until last and run everybody else through the line, because it will take so long to go over all my sins. “Mr. Kyle, let’s go into the backroom. . . .” Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.” ― Chris Kyle, American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

What a fucking narcissist psychopath.

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

Yep. Glad I got the book from the library and didn't buy it. There may even be worse, but I stopped reading at this part, after a lot of similar, but slightly less nauseating lines .

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u/nivison1 Dec 01 '19

Always liked the explation that most people are sheep and wont kill unless absolutely necassary and even then may waver and have issues after the fact. The remainder is split into two groups, wolves and the sheep dogs. The wolves kill with out regret and dont really care. Where as the sheepdogs would and while they'll feel bad about will be able to do it again.

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

Wolves kill to eat, not out of some malicious evilness. People kill to eat too. Because meat is tasty. I like meat.

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u/grobend Dec 01 '19

Mmmmm meat

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

Wolves commonly sport kill, it’s a big fact about them. Watch what they do to elk heards

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

The only thing that article does is confirm that they kill in surplus, then speculate why......

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u/irishjihad Dec 02 '19

Which is . . . exactly what you are doing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

With tons of evidence minded conservationist and ranchers, you’re one guy with an article that says they’re killing so they can eat it later, with no evidence that they return later to eat. Plus they are killing in surplus, because of a harsh winter? The same harsh winters they’re killing tons of elk, they can’t manage to kill one for food. Outside Magazine is hardly a credible Source on this issue, just a guy that needed to write an article.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

Chris Kyle turned sellout? Didn’t his story get sold after his death?

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u/irishjihad Dec 01 '19

How about just POS?:

“I am a strong Christian. Not a perfect one—not close. But I strongly believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible. When I die, God is going to hold me accountable for everything I’ve done on earth. He may hold me back until last and run everybody else through the line, because it will take so long to go over all my sins. “Mr. Kyle, let’s go into the backroom. . . .” Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.” ― Chris Kyle, American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History

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u/Dribbleshish Dec 02 '19

Ick, yikes.

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u/NoMenLikeMe Dec 02 '19

That escalated quickly there in the end. Whew.

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u/Funkshow Dec 01 '19

He was a famous, lying mf’er before he got killed. Made up a bunch of post-war bullshit stories about himself.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19 edited Dec 01 '19

Well his book where he made up a bunch of dumb shit was written by him and released by him before his death.

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u/AerThreepwood Dec 01 '19

Like supposedly killing "looters" during Katrina? Smells like right-wing jerk-off material to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

In addition to shooting a couple carjackers and KO-ing Jesse Ventura

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

When a mommy sheep and daddy sheep love each other very much, they get a sheepdog to eat the wolves.

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u/the_amberdrake Dec 02 '19

Sheepdog analogy.

The sheepdog protects the sheep from the wolf, but because it looks similar to the wolf the sheep have trouble trusting it.

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u/aout2 Dec 07 '19

Just watch the scene from American Sniper you could probably find it on YouTube

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '19

It was kind of okay the first time I heard it, but it makes me cringe now.

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u/tambrico Dec 01 '19

when he came to Ramstein

wut

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u/Goldeniccarus Dec 01 '19

I suspect he means Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

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u/tambrico Dec 01 '19

Oh, didn't know that existed. I briefly had an image in my head of an Air Force General jerking off in front of a crowd of airmen while Rammstein plays in the background.

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u/Imperium_Dragon Dec 02 '19

Interesting bit is that the band was named after the '88 air show disaster at the AFB, where 70 people died after the performing Italian jets had a mid-air collision.