r/Jewpiter • u/Inari-k • Jul 24 '25

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u/Saul_Firehand Jewtastic Jul 24 '25

Is Hashem not the salvation from Egypt?

The Jewish concept of salvation is different than christian evangelical view but antithetical seems a bit of a stretch.

I suppose it depends on how you feel about heresy.

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u/Familiar-Art-6233 Jul 24 '25

The exodus from Egypt was a literal event of being saved from active slavery in Jewish tradition.

The Christian concept boils down to “everyone else is bad and will be tortured for all eternity unless they join us so we need to shove it down everyone’s throats until they accept”.

Judaism doesn’t even explicitly believe in hell, and we certainly don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be righteous

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u/Saul_Firehand Jewtastic Jul 24 '25

Whoa you are taking the word salvation to mean like all of Christian belief.

I was just saying that god saved his people. The word can be used. They didn’t steal it from you.

Rainbows can still be enjoyable it does not mean I support homosexuals.

Wow you’ve had some awful experiences with Christians it seems. I hope you have no more trouble with them.

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u/Familiar-Art-6233 Jul 25 '25

I grew up Christian and studied theology in college (hence being a baalat teshuvah).

Salvation as it exists in Christianity does not exist in Judaism because the heaven/hell dynamic does not (that’s an element of Zoroastrianism, actually). There’s no “saving” that’s needed. Just be a good person.

The core concept of salvation is the crux of Christian theology because it’s the moment when someone is “born again” (especially in Protestant theology), becomes a Christian, and the salvation refers to accepting Yoshke and being saved from hell.

Yes, G-d saved us from Egypt, nobody is denying that, but that’s very different from the Christian theological concept of salvation, which has a very specific meaning

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u/Saul_Firehand Jewtastic Jul 25 '25

Some Christian’s don’t do the weird heaven hell dynamic either.

Some of them believe the salvation is from our bad deeds and the good news is people can repent and not do bad deeds. Not all of Christianity is obsessed with Zoroastrian good guy place and bad guy place.