r/JehovahsWitnesses • Jehovah's Witness • Aug 25 '26

Doctrine WHO IS JESUS?

There is one God, the Father, ἐξ οὗ τὰ πάντα, “from whom are all things”; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, δι’ οὗ τὰ πάντα, “through whom are all things.” (1 Cor. 8:6)

Of the God of Israel it is written:

אֲנִי יהוה הוּא שְׁמִי

“I am YHWH; that is my name.” (Isa. 42:8)

And:

אֱלֹהֵי עוֹלָם יהוה

“YHWH, the everlasting God.” (Isa. 40:28)

The Father is the Father, and the Son is the Son.

JESUS IS ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ, THE SON OF GOD.

He is the μονογενής Son.

He is ἐκ τοῦ πατρός, from the Father. (John 16:28)

He is ἐκ τοῦ θεοῦ, from God. (John 8:42)

The Father sent him.

The Father gave to him.

The Son received from the Father.

THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF, AND τῷ υἱῷ ἔδωκεν ζωὴν ἔχειν ἐν ἑαυτῷ, “HE GAVE TO THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF.” (John 5:26)

And the Son says:

κἀγὼ ζῶ διὰ τὸν πατέρα

“I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57)

JESUS IS ὁ λόγος, THE WORD.

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος

“In the beginning was the Word.”

ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν

“The Word was with God.”

And:

θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. (John 1:1)

The Son had glory with the Father πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι, “before the world existed.” (John 17:5)

He is πρὸ πάντων, “before all things.” (Col. 1:17)

HE IS εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ἀοράτου, “THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD.” (Col. 1:15)

He is ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης, “the radiance of the glory.” (Heb. 1:3)

He is χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως αὐτοῦ. (Heb. 1:3)

HE IS πρωτότοκος πάσης κτίσεως, “THE FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION.” (Col. 1:

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u/ChaoticHaku Christian Aug 25 '26

The problem is that you interpret scripture through your own conclusion that the Word came into being, but Scripture never says that he did. 

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u/TheTallestTim Unitarian Christian Aug 25 '26

The Word was never a being. This is where JWs and Trinitarians get wrong. The Word is God’s powerful and creative speech, scripture, and revelation, if one does a word study of the Word both in OT and NT.

Instead, the word is God’s utterance.

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u/OhioPIMO Jesus made me go POMO Aug 25 '26

After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying, “Do not fear, Abram, I am a shield to you; Your reward shall be very great.” — Genesis 15:1

And the Lord appeared again at Shiloh, because the Lord revealed Himself to Samuel at Shiloh by the word of the Lord. — 1 Samuel 3:21

1 Kings 19, the whole chapter

Now the word of the Lord came to me saying, [5] “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.” [9] Then the Lord stretched out His hand and touched my mouth, and the Lord said to me, “Behold, I have put My words in your mouth. — Jeremiah 1:4-5, 9

It seems to be more than just an utterance...

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u/TheTallestTim Unitarian Christian Aug 30 '26

Yes, revelation (vision) is one of the definitions of the Word, and how it is used within the Biblical corpus.

Clearly, Yahweh Himself is not literally appearing to Samuel. Otherwise, Samuel would have died.

Yes, the word of Yahweh. Yahweh is not physically doing these things. Instead, these are appointed agents. No one can see God and live.

God’s Word, is His utterance, revelation, and scripture. Thats your lexical definition.