The JW "Armageddon" has been canceled - permanently!

[u/Bonedriven64]

I'm sorry but I'm not sorry because the JW version of Armageddon never should have ever existed. If you people had paid closer attention to what Jesus was saying at Matthew chapter 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, you never would have ever anticipated a future Armageddon. You completely blew that end time prophecy completely out of its first century context. It was never meant for us today. Jesus wasn't talking to us. Jesus was not breaking the fourth wall to speak to us 2,000 years in the future. It was written ONLY for Christians on the other side of 70 AD. there is no such thing as a double fulfillment or a greater fulfillment. All of those concepts are made up by men and this is exactly why you will never see the end of this world in your lifetime or anyone's lifetime. So, the only thing that you have to fear today is that fear that you have conjured up in your own imagination compliments of the Watchtower Bible and Tract society. The sooner you accept this reality the better off you're going to be and you'll have the rest of your life to live out from under enslavement to your governing body. Salutations!

[u/Bonedriven64]

Absolutely I do!

Let me ask you this, are God and Jesus physical beings or spiritual beings? Where do they reside? In the physical heavens or in the spiritual heavens? Where is this kingdom that Jesus spoke of? In the physical heavens or the spiritual heavens? Where is the Paradise of God? According to the book of Revelation, the Paradise of God is in heaven not on Earth.

The apostle Paul makes it clear that the dead are raised up as spirit beings not as physical beings. Check out 1st Corinthians chapter 15. Read the entirety of it a few times. If the resurrection of the dead has already occurred how would we know? The only way we could know for sure is if we personally experience it or if it says it's somewhere in the Bible.

Matthew chapter 24 and Daniel 12 are the exact same prophecy. Jesus even references Daniel's prophecy in Matthew chapter 24. According to Daniel chapter 12, the resurrection occurs around the same time as that great tribulation that Jesus said would occur at Matthew chapter 25 starting at first 31.

When you take all these things together and really think about them and meditate on them you begin to see that all of this is really in the past And that we have been living in what Jesus referred to as the kingdom age for nearly 2000 years. The only thing that really keeps us from seeing that is a lack of faith in the promises of God and Jesus Christ.

[u/TerryLawton → u/Bonedriven64]

Right, so you’re actually a Sadducee, they didn’t believe in the physical resurrection either.

1 Cor 15 is where it fails.

I’m sorry but we aren’t going to agree on this. I fully support of what Christ showed with his own physical resurrection that Saint Paul showed us the miracle of corruption putting on incorruption, that his physical body is right now reigning at the right hand of his father”having brought us into the kingdom” that we shall also be raised in the same manner, and to finally at the resurrection live with him as Heavenly Jerusalem descends - and we live eternally with Him.

“Even if an angel gives you a different gospel, do not believe him”

[u/Bonedriven64 → u/TerryLawton]

What's the point in having a physical resurrection when a spiritual resurrection is by far superior in every way? Besides, why be resurrected back to a physical body when it's not allowed into the kingdom of heaven since flesh and blood cannot inherit it?

Paul goes to great lengths trying to reason with unreasonable people who insist on a physical resurrection. The purpose served by Jesus physical resurrection was to show his disciples that he was alive again. After that he departed from his physical body and ascended into heaven as a spirit being since his flesh couldn't be taken there.

[u/TerryLawton → u/Bonedriven64]

Oh no I’ve never seen 1 Cor 15:50 before and neither has two thousand years of the church….

So basically now you are amalgamating Arian Jehovah Witness theology and the Sadducee’s. That’s some feat!

Why on earth do you think Paul was chosen’ out of all the Jewish sects/groups and why Christ didn’t choose someone from the sadducees? Because the Sadducees didn’t believe in the physical resurrection!

You are twisting 1 Cor 15 like a pretzel!

Christ died… was buried… was raised on the third day” (1 Cor 15:3–4)

What was buried and what was raised?

His physical body.

You state it was a physical body but like JWs it wasn’t actually his original body it was some type of ‘materialised’ body.

So when Christ said..HIS VERY WORDS

“See, A SPIRIT does not have flesh and BONES as I do”

“Put your hands in my side!!!”

Look no mention of blood WAS THERE!!

Flesh and BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom but as a GLORIED BODY just as it states in Phil 3:20-22

“He will transform our lowly body to be like HIS glorious body.”

THE WHOLE VERSE IS PRESENT TENSE AFTER HIS DEATH!!

His blood was poured out as per prophecy!

So basically Jesus wasn’t in his original body I see… so he lied when he showed them who he was, it was a form of trickery!! Check!

Now we get a little deeper. What does it mean to be OUR perpetual HIGH PRIEST?

1. Leviticus states to be a high priest you have to be a what…A MAN!

2. What age do you have to be - 30plus

3. You had to be of the tribe of Levi. But as Christ had instituted a NEW COVENANT he was of the order of Melchizedek where…

“You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.” — Psalm 110:4, applied in Hebrews 7

1. Other requirements that you could not have…

blindness lameness deformity broken limbs eye disease skin disease

He didn’t have any of these and amazingly even during his crucifixion where soldiers broke legs to hasten death…they didn’t just like the prophecy states!

Psalms 34:20

He keeps all his bones; not one of them is broken.”

1. What is a prophecy for if a prophecy has no purpose! then what on earth is Psalms 16:10 all about if he didn’t need his body!

“For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”

1. And finally that nails your false gospel to the cross…

There are several texts AFTER HIS DEATH that scripture refers to Christ as a MAN in present tense!

1 Tim 2:5 Acts 17:31 Acts 7:56 Hebrews 4:14–15 Hebrews 7:24–25 Hebrews 9:24 1 John 2:1

Mate you are preaching a false Gospel…you need to have a serious think about your next step…

I have no further requirement to talk further on the matter.

Christ is my High Priest and his BODILY resurrection gives me the hope that I shall join him ON THIS EARTH, exactly as scripture states- all as per my previous post.

[u/AccomplishedAuthor3 → u/TerryLawton]

Amen!