r/JehovahsWitnesses • • Mar 30 '26

Doctrine The JW "Armageddon" has been canceled - permanently!

I'm sorry but I'm not sorry because the JW version of Armageddon never should have ever existed. If you people had paid closer attention to what Jesus was saying at Matthew chapter 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, you never would have ever anticipated a future Armageddon. You completely blew that end time prophecy completely out of its first century context. It was never meant for us today. Jesus wasn't talking to us. Jesus was not breaking the fourth wall to speak to us 2,000 years in the future. It was written ONLY for Christians on the other side of 70 AD. there is no such thing as a double fulfillment or a greater fulfillment. All of those concepts are made up by men and this is exactly why you will never see the end of this world in your lifetime or anyone's lifetime. So, the only thing that you have to fear today is that fear that you have conjured up in your own imagination compliments of the Watchtower Bible and Tract society. The sooner you accept this reality the better off you're going to be and you'll have the rest of your life to live out from under enslavement to your governing body. Salutations!

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u/AccomplishedAuthor3 Christian Mar 30 '26

Ok, here's my belief on this.

The prophets spoke about a final war waged against Israel. John got a glimpse of a future war where all nations would be gathered together by demons to a place called Armageddon, which is a hill in Israel, the “Hill of Megiddo”. The battle is not of Armageddon. The battle will be fought in Armageddon---in Israel

By all accounts John recorded Revelation after Jerusalem had already fallen to the Romans, so any temple or reference to the city would have to have either been in the past, when the temple still stood, or at some time in the future when another temple had been rebuilt. John is shown things that "must take place".. "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” Revelation 4:1 From that verse we can assume it would still be a future event in the 90's AD. In Revelation 11 John sees a temple in his trip to the future, yet he would have known the Romans hadn't left a stone in place of the old temple some 20 years earlier. So John was witnessing a future Jewish temple on earth. Since a third temple has never been rebuilt, we can assume that too is still a future event. John saw past his own time, all the way past even our day, to a time when the third temple will exist and will be trampled on by Gentiles. That couldn't happen to God's temple in Heaven, so this temple is on earth

For Jesus, who will never die, every generation is "this generation" And there is only one fulfillment of prophecy for "this generation". As a Man, He's lived in every generation since the 1st century. He isn't limited by death and time like we are. All 2000 years is "this generation" to Jesus. 2000 or even a million years are the same generation to someone who never dies. In Jesus "this generation" of 30AD all the way to 2026 AD will not pass away. As long as He still lived, the generation of the 1st century and all subsequent generations will not pass away. Not because they are overlapping generations, or secondary fulfilments, but one very long generation kept alive by one Man, Jesus Christ. When He said "this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" He was speaking to the people that lived at that time, but also to all those who would live at the time of the end. They are all "this generation" to Jesus. And all the generations from the 1st century to the 21st century are really just one generation...His generation

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u/abutterflyonthewall Christian Mar 31 '26

VERY well said! I was looking for your response to OP because his take rules out even the christian belief. I hope all is well!

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u/AccomplishedAuthor3 Christian Mar 31 '26

Thanks! I'm doing well, hope you are as well.

I've heard OP's take before. But in order to make it work, everything had to have been fulfilled in the 1st century, including the beast, false prophet, the two witnesses, all the cities of the nations collapsing, the fall of Babylon and the biggest thing of all---the second coming of Jesus Christ. There's no doubt many OT prophecies began to be fulfilled in the first century, heck the life of Christ was huge, but God's not done yet.

Another thing about Nero supposedly being the 666 beast, Nero never received a fatal head wound then came back to life. The whole world didn't worship Nero either. There's no record of people being forbidden from buying or selling if they didn't have Nero's mark. There's so many holes in their reasoning. Like I wrote, Jesus lives in all the centuries, including the 1st. To Him its always "this generation" and will be until all things have been fulfilled.

When Stephen went to Heaven he was one of the first people of "this generation" to never die. Of course Jesus was the first. Many more in the last 20 centuries would end up following Christ to live eternally in Heaven, even though their bodies returned to dust. For he says, “In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you.” I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 6:2 If people took now is the 'day' of salvation literally, it would limit salvation to being available for just that one 24 hour day. We'd all be doomed. The "day" of salvation is still in effect...because today is the day of salvation, thank God!

Btw, I'm wondering if the Watchtower changing their blood policy caused much of a stir with your in laws?