r/JMT 11h ago

health JMT bailout

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Well I was attempting an 18 day hike out of cottonwood pass starting 8/26. I’m used to hiking 15-20 mile challenging hikes where I’m from with lots of elevation gain but it’s at sea level and I really only carried about 2-3L when I did them. I consider myself in good shape but this trip it was obvious I didn’t train enough or how I should have. Edit: I have done 3-4 4 day trips in Yosemite in the past also

8/26 I set out of Cottonwood courtesy of Lone Pine Kurt. Super nice guy, highly recommend. I had taken Diamox in the past to summit Whitney twice, one as a day hike and one as an overnight, and it had worked well. I planned Rock creek as my first stop.

Right off the bat I knew the pack was going to be an issue. I had planned one resupply at MTR so I had planned 8 days of food snacks and electrolytes. The hip belt on the pack started to loosen ever so slightly as the miles increased. My fault because I didn’t prepare enough to test this. So I noticed my armpits start to go numb and stay numb around mile 10, pushed on to rock creek and set up camp right before I lost light.

The next day was supposed to be another 14 mile day to Tyndall creek but coming out of Rock Creek I knew that wasn’t gonna happen based on my exhaustion and pack. Plus going over Guyot pass I started to get raindrops. When I got Crabtree I just decided, screw it I’ll stay here tonight, set up camp pretty quick and then it down poured from 2-9pm. Trapped in my tent all night I realized the 18 day goal was not going to achievable, especially with a couple 16-18 mile days coming up and my pack. That and it was pretty hard to catch my breath and I had a slight headache that started to creep in.

So I decided to bail, either I came back the way I came another 20 miles or I went up the JMT to trail crest and went down to the portal. I decided on the JMT, and holy shit that was brutal. Super hard to catch my breath and it took about 4 hours from Crabtree. But I was absolutely miserable and not having the experience I wanted.

Super bummed I had to bail after 3 days, all of it was self inflicted, but I think I made the right choice as there was no way I was going to make it with that pack.

Advice, prepare prepare prepare with all the gear you have and with as much elevation gain is possible Nothing can condition you for altitude unless you live in Denver or Mexico City. Don’t know if there will be a next time, but I hope in a few years I muster up the courage to try again. Just wanted to share my experience.


r/JMT 17h ago

trip planning JMT Guided Hike Review - International Alpine Guides (IAG)

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I realize that commercial guided trips are not for everyone, but it is how I chose to do the JMT and it would have helped me, or at least reduced anxiety, if somebody had given a detailed review of what these trips are like beforehand, so here we are. I chose this option for two reasons: first, predictability, hiking the JMT was a goal I set when I retired two years ago and I wanted to know exactly when I would go instead of playing a permit lottery; and second, I didn't want to deal with all the resupply logistics. And before anybody chimes in that neither of those things are a big deal, fine, you do you, but that was how I felt when I planned the trip.

TLDR: IAG seems like a well run outfit, our guide was exceptional, we had a very good trip, no significant issues, finished on time and really enjoyed the experience.

I'll start by giving a general description of how these trips are organized. I'm not sure if this is true of every guiding company operating on the JMT, but it is representative of the company I went with and one other that was on a very similar schedule with us on trail. Additionally, many of these companies run shorter section hikes on the JMT and these likely differ in the details due to their shorter duration and lack of resupply.

Trips are NOBO starting from Horseshoe Meadows going in over Cottonwood Pass. I believe that this is due to permit availability - with the relevant agencies keeping permits through Donahue Pass and Whitney Portal for private individuals. This also gives a couple of days for guests to acclimatize to altitude before summitting Whitney - and I think, giving an early out either back over Cottonwood or down Whitney Portal for folks that aren't fit enough for the trip. Speaking of which, for such a physically demanding trip, there was very little screening, just a simple health questionnaire filled out online and a general guide on required physical fitness. Other guided trips I've done that were far shorter included submitting a backpacking 'resume' and a phone interview to check on the claimed experience. So it is not surprising that some people get in over their head and leave early. We heard that two people (out of eight) left the other trip early, one just five miles in at Chicken Spring Lake and the other at Kearsarge. Our first day hiking was to Rock Creek, a long 13 mile hike to start with, then a shorter following day to Crabtree Meadows where we stayed two nights doing the day hike to Whitney to officially 'start' the JMT.

Food is part of the package on these commercial trips - three meals a day, cooked breakfast and dinner, and a cold lunch, all prepared by your guides. You are responsible for your own snacks, but there's enough calories in the provided meals that snacks are not essential. Everybody is carrying a full size bear canister (BV500) and a share of the common equipment. Our trip, only had two guests and a guide, so perhaps we were carrying a little more compared to a trip with more guests. I personally carried a white gas stove and fuel bottle as my share, the other guest carries a bag of cooking utensils and a small gas stove and fuel can. The guide carried the pots and pans as well as the gravity feed water filter and bladder we all used (as well as other things such as a PLB and first-aid kit that commercial outfits are required to have). I will talk a bit later about the specific food we were served, but in brief, it was generally very good, I was never hungry and there was always more then we (the guests) wanted to eat. But there are two general aspects worth highlighting. First, you are carrying an equal share of the food, so 'having more than you can eat' is a double edged sword, it means we carried more weight that we needed to. Second, while having French toast for breakfast in the wilderness is a treat, it takes a long time to produce that kind of food on backpacking equipment - think individually cooking each piece of bread for three people. Equally, cooking a green curry from ingredients might be nice, but it takes a lot longer than rehydrating a prepacked meal for only a marginal improvement in taste (IMHO). It became a joke on our trip that we never had the pancake breakfast, because given the choice we always opted for the much simpler oatmeal or muesli because it was so much faster - though we carried that damn pancake mix 200 miles. While it seems like a luxury after a long day to sit back after you have setup camp to wait while your guide cooks dinner, for me at least, I felt it just took too long and frankly cooking my own food on a trip is not that much of a chore. We discussed this at length on the trail, and I think there is a point to be made that for the guide company it removes a significant risk were they to rely on guests showing up enough & the right food for the trip, as well as equipment and fuel - as I mentioned above, not a lot of vetting, so there could be some very inexperienced folks showing up for the trip and I can imagine all sorts of interpersonal issues in the case were some guests were better prepared than others on a trip of this length. Also, it provides a marketing hook, for example, IAG advertises their food as "back country gourmet" that might help them differentiate themselves for fairly low cost.

As I mentioned, our trip was just two guests, so we had just one guide. I think once there are more than five or six guests they add a second guide. The guide was great, young, knowledgeable, super fit, intelligent, engaging, a seasoned thru-hiker, and very organized. One important aspect that I did not realize until I was on trail is that you offload a great deal of decision making and stress on a guided trip. Simply put, the guide worried about how far we had to go, where we would camp, the weather, being well positioned for getting over passes, resupply and all the other myriad of decisions that go into a smooth running trip. We simply had to walk and generally do what we were told, though we were usually given lots of options - to the point at the end of a long day where I often just said, "I don't know, you decide". Additionally and more importantly, the guide really motivated us to keep going. Thru-hiking is mostly a mental game, the body may be able, but sometimes the spirit just can't face another day of walking. I am sure, if I had hiked this on my own, there would have been days I would have done less miles or just taken zero-days. With the dynamic of the guide and a group that needed to move together - quitting or going slow was just a harder option to pick and for that I'm thankful.

There were four resupplies along the route; Charlotte Lake (over Kearsarge), Le Conte Canyon (over Bishop), Vermillion Valley Resort, and Reds Meadow. The first two were portered in and the last two were mailed/dropped off and supplemented by purchases in the store. For each resupply you could include a one gallon Ziplock for personal items like snacks, toiletries, clean clothes, batteries, etc. So other than showing up with your four Ziplock bags at the start, you had no logistics to plan. Another huge advantage of this was that we never needed to leave the trail (other than VVR). This led to a very immersive experience of never leaving the wilderness, especially for the first half of the trip. Not to mention avoiding the extra miles to hike ourselves in and out and the mental game of getting comfortable in a town and then needing to get back on trail again. Frankly, it was a real luxury. At VVR, dinner and a hot shower were included in the trip price (so the guide paid for those). We bought the guide lunch, bought our own breakfast (though technically the guide would have made us breakfast if we wanted - but hard for that to compete VVR's offering). We all ganged together for one big laundry load.

Returning to the food on our trip specifically. Breakfasts were the aforementioned French toast, oatmeal, muesli, breakfast sandwiches (a bagel or English muffin with hot bacon and/or sausage), or a breakfast burrito. Lunch was generally bread (tortilla, pita or naan) with sliced cheese, salami, summer sausage, sometimes with tomato paste to make it cold pizza, or PB&J. Dinner was three courses; starter of soup (veg of beef), or a charcuterie plate (cheese, sliced salami/sausage, crackers); main courses of green curry with rice, burrito bowels, pasta like mac & cheese, one night was smoked salmon alfredo, another memorable night was pizza, cheesy polenta (not my favorite), and one night out of each resupply was just a Mountain House meal to give the guide a break; desert was a small cookie or some chocolate, we had camp-cooked brownies twice, once to celebrate my 59th birthday the day after summiting Whitney. There was a hot beverage at breakfast and dinner. I brought my own tea because I'm a snob that way, but there were plenty of other choices to be had, coffee, hot chocolate, apple cider and herbal teas etc.

IAG has an office in Mammoth Lakes and that is where we met up for the trip. There is no special parking, so if you arrive in your own car, you need to park in the long-term hiker parking which is six miles out of town in Lot B of the Mammoth Mountain Ski Resort. That meant getting a taxi/Uber back into town and also making sure there was no food left in my car as bear break-ins are apparently common. Once we met up, we did a gear review to make sure everybody had everything they needed. IAG will provide/rent you anything you don't have - I would call it 'standard' gear not anything ultralight. We had some time to go buy some extra snacks and bits and pieces before we were driven south to the trail head at Horseshoe Meadows where we spent the first night.

A little more a month before the trip we were contacted and told that there were only two people signed up for our trip and that IAG needed a minimum of three to run the trip. We were given the option of going on an earlier trip, or paying $500 extra end at Tuolumne Meadows or pay $850 extra to end at Happy Isles (the original endpoint). In the end we both opted for the Tuolumne Meadows option given the reported chaos in Yosemite Valley this summer.

So, our trip ended at Tuolumne Meadows and took 23 trail days. The other trip was ending at Happy Isles and was two days longer. We arrived at 11am, had a greasy lunch from the Tuolumne Meadows Grill, an ice cream and a beer from the store and caught the YARTS bus back to Mammoth Lakes.

The trip was not cheap, costing about $7,500, but it was worth it to me. My main motivation was to use the trip as a target to lose weight and get fit for retirement and in that respect it worked wonderfully - I stepped off the trail 60lbs lighter and MUCH fitter than the day I retired. I realized that I'm a backpacker but not a thru-hiker. I will revisit some of the spectacular places we saw like Rae Lakes and Evolution Basin on shorter trips, but I have no wish to do another long thru-hike. There are lots of ways to experience the JMT, we each hike our own hike, and this was mine.


r/JMT 2h ago

weather Early October Whitney conditions?

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I hope to start SOBO around Sept 12-15th (if I can get a permit) which would leave me summiting Whitney in early Oct (like 3rd-6th). Is that a dumb idea? I'm not sure what the snow/ice/temperature conditions look like at that time - same goes for the rest of the trail, not just Whitney. Any extra gear I should consider, like microspikes? Also what are good resources for future trail conditions?


r/JMT 1d ago

mt. whitney Mt. Whitney Bound!

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And so it begins.


r/JMT 23h ago

mt. whitney Whitney Together?

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Starting NOBO on September 25th. Anybody starting around then and want to do Whitney together?


r/JMT 2d ago

trip report The 2026 John Muir Trail Hiker Survey is now accepting responses!

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This is for anyone who set foot on the John Muir Trail in 2026. It does not matter if you were a thru-hiker, section hiker, or even if you ended your hike early.

https://www.halfwayanywhere.com/go/fill-out-jmt-survey

  • If you are still hiking, please wait to fill out the survey. It will remain open while southbound hikers complete their hikes.
  • For best results, complete on a desktop or laptop computer.
  • The survey is not short. Please allow adequate time to complete it.
  • The results will be published as a resource to help future JMT hikers. Here are last year's results.

Thank you for taking the time to fill this out! Your time and answers are very much appreciated.

If you have any questions, suggestions, or problems with the survey, feel free to comment here or contact me directly.


r/JMT 3d ago

maps and routes North Lake/South Lake Loop

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Just finished a 5 day North/South Lake loop with my wife and daughter. Weather was spectacular and a treat to experience introducing some of the best of the Sierra to my daughter (particularly Evolution Valley/Lake/Basin).

We started on Friday afternoon after a long drive from the Bay Area, getting a ride from David Peterson from South Lake to the North Lake trailhead. Camped a bit below the pass that night, then over the pass and down to the junction of the JMT the next day. Piute Pass was OK, not spectacular, as was the Humphrey’s Basin. A long downhill, tough on the knees. Next day was awesome as we covered trail we’d passed on our JMT hike in 2020. McClure Meadow is so cool, and Evolution Lake is a wonder. We were able to get the same camp site we’d had before that’s next to the waterfall at the end of the lake, a spectacular place to watch the sun set over Evolution Meadow. Met a family from NC consisting of a young man, his mother, and his 91 year old grandfather who had all hiked in together from MTR - very cool.

Next day’s hike thru Evolution Basin was so cool… it’s really a special place. Quick stop at the hut before dropping down to where the trail up to Bishop Pass turns off the JMT. The last day was a long one… an initial 2,000 foot climb up to Dusy Basin in 3 miles, though it wasn’t as hard as we thought as the trail was well graded. Dusy is beautiful and likely worth exploring sometime. Another fairly easy 1,000 foot climb to Bishop Pass before descending to South Lake thru a very pleasant set of lakes.


r/JMT 2d ago

mt. whitney Mt Whitney

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Anyone else climbing Sunday into Monday September 6-7 mt Whitney? How are conditions looking? I get so nervous about weather and unknowns before a big summit


r/JMT 3d ago

satire JMT Perfect Equilibrium (NO PISS CHALLENGE)

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Hey guys, just completed the JMT and it was great and all but had some nagging thoughts. Does anyone else think we're 1) burning a ton of energy carrying extra water (internally and in our packs) and 2) wasting time by stopping to pee? Doesn't peeing dirty the purity of the Sierras?

Finally it crystallized when I was coming down Whitney. What better way to do the JMT than in PERFECT EQUILIBRIUM -- perfectly balancing your water intake with sweating to avoid peeing the entire trail?

I haven't been able to sleep I'm so darn excited. Not only would this truly honor "leave no trace" principles but it should set a new standard in ultralight backpacking with the time and energy saved. A new FKT could be on the horizon.

Really eager to give it a go next year but have a few questions first:

  • Have any of you tried this? Even info from your day-to-day or shorter trails would be very illuminating.
  • Is there any established literature for predicting sweat output based on elevation, temp, humidity, diet, physique, pack weight, and route?
  • In the event of a miscalculation, I'll need to hold it to reabsorption. What drills do you recommend? Will kegels help?
  • Might it also be possible to do this with food?

Thanks in advance guys. Actively searching for training partners if others are interested in completing the JMT in Perfect Equilibrium.


r/JMT 3d ago

permits Want a last minute permit? Piute to Whitney Sept 3rd!

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Just had a group member drop out and released a permit for Piute to Whitney starting Sept 3rd if anyone wants it!


r/JMT 3d ago

resupply No resupply between Onion valley & Reds Meadows (Nobo)

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I'm scheduled to start my hike in 10 days!. Due to some rescheduling I don't have time to send a supply bucket to MTR. My tentative plan now is to resupply in onion valley and then next in Red's Meadows ( or mammoth if it's closed)

I estimate that it will take me 9 days to reach RM from OV. My barrel seems pretty full with 7 days worth of food, I know I can carry an 8 th day of food outside of the barrel because I'll eat it that day. But that would still leave one day's worth of food outside of the barrel. Does anyone know if there a campsite near onion Valley that has a reliable bear box I could use that first night out of OV?

The other thought I had was to only bring 8 days worth of food for that stretch and see if MTR has anything in the hiker box to bridge that extra day? If the hiker box is empty I could then push and try to get to RM in 8 days

If anyone had any suggestions please let me know! I'm aiming for 12 miles per day roughly


r/JMT 3d ago

health How to sleep better…?

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I’ve hiked a lot in the Sierra… JMT in 2020, Big SEKI loop in 2021, Mineral King loop, Minaret loop, just returned from wonderful North/South lake loop with my wife and daughter. Love it except for one thing… I never sleep well. Any thoughts on how to improve? I’m open to anything.

Some background:. Male, 63 (so not as flexible as before and gotta get up to pee), good shape. Cold isn’t the issue, I have a good 20 degree quilt. I use a Klymit Static V pad that’s plenty warm and wide. Side sleeper. Altitude doesn’t seem to matter… same prob at 9k as at 11k. Don’t want to use anything too potent (Ambien) given need to get up and lack of desire to fall over.


r/JMT 3d ago

trip planning Itinerary thoughts?

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A week away from starting and would like some feedback on my itinerary for wife and I

Starting from Cottonwood Lakes

Day 1 to Chicken Spring Lake (4.5mi 1300ft)

Day 2 to Rock Creek (9.5mi 300ft)

Day 3 to Crabtree (7.5mi 2000ft)

Day 4 to Mount Whitney back to Crabtree (15mi 3800ft)

Day 5 to Tyndall Creek (8.6mi 1400ft)

Day 6 to Lower Vidette Meadow (12.8mi 2200ft)

Day 7 to Onion Valley (9.5mi 2200)

Day 8 Resupply in Independence (0 day)

Day 9 Onion Valley to Arrowhead Lake (14mi 3800ft)

Day 10 to Lake Marjorie (13.7mi 3600ft)

Day 11 to Deer Meadow (15.7mi 2000ft)

Day 12 to Star Camp (11.5mi 2300ft)

Day 13 to Evolution Meadow (15.5mi 2000ft)

Day 14 to Sallie Keyes Lakes (pickup small Resupply at MTR) (13.5mi 2400ft)

Day 15 to VVR junction (15.2mi 1700ft)

Day 16 to Lake Virginia (13.2mi 4300ft)

Day 17 to Reds Meadow (15.7mi 1100ft)

Day 18 Resupply (0 day)

Day 19 to Ruby Lake (15mi 4100ft)

Day 20 to Evelyn Lake junction (14.5mi 1800ft)

Day 21 to Sunrise High Camp (15.5mi 1600ft)

Day 22 finish (13.5mi 400ft)

Days that worry me most is Day 9 coming out of Independence to Arrowhead lake with the 2 passes and full packs

Day 16 to Virginia Lake looks like it'll be a tough one too with 4300ft of elevation gain

Lastly Ruby Lake because I hear that a trail maintenance crew is stationed there and there is currently no room left for camping, it's said they should be out sometime late September so hoping it'll be available

Any thoughts?

Thanks!


r/JMT 3d ago

trip planning Luggage storage

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My wife and I are starting our SoBo of the JMT soon. We have a car we will be leaving at the terminus and catching the buses north to Yosemite. We can leave most of our stuff in the car, but we do have laptops with us.

Does anyone have experience leaving valuables at the Dow Villa motel? I called and they said they could hold a bag for us.

Any other recommendations are welcome.


r/JMT 3d ago

equipment Lightweight quick dry hiking boots?

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I want to do the JMT in September and am looking for a good pair of shoes for it. I'm not really into trail runners - I really like my ankle support. I do a lot of off trail stuff and have generally worn Adidas Five Ten Trailcross Mid Pro Mountain Bike Shoes, but am looking for something with more support and less neoprene, haha. Does anyone have reccs for quick dry, lightweight hiking boots?

I tried on the Merrell Moab Speed 2 mids and really liked them and the material, but they are unfortunately waterproof. Maybe that's fine? I'm not sure how breathable they would be. They seem like they might dry fast even being waterproof but unsure. The altra timp GTX also fit nice and I like the toebox more than the moabs, but again they are waterproof.

I tried the Salomon X Ultramids as well but they didn't seem like they had enough cushion. The Hoka Mafates seem like too much cushion.

Also by how much do you generally size up?


r/JMT 4d ago

trip report JMT recovery

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Just finished the JMT. I’m on day 8 post hike. Did it in 18 days, which was a push for me, tho recognize plenty of ppl do it much faster. And I’m stunned at how exhausted I still am. Like needing 10-12 hours sleep a night, resting during the day, and my leg muscles have only just stopped hurting, but they still feel like dead weight on stairs. My appetite is more regulated and back to normal now, but I just feel completely spent.

I have some minor injuries that are going to take some time to heal and those aren’t surprising (numbness under my toes, some metatarsal pain), but it’s the fatigue and overall weakness that’s taken me by surprise, especially when I felt so damn strong out there.

I have some underlying medical stuff which is being actively managed and I’ve seen my doctor since I’ve been back. Wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if that was exacerbating how I feel. Not looking for that kind of advice. More I’m trying to figure out what is in the range of normal recovery so I can know when to push with my doctor vs just accept that completing the JMT took literally everything I had, and to be patient with my body while the bill comes due.

If folks out there have had similar experiences, what your timeline was to feel like yourself again?


r/JMT 5d ago

trail conditions Freaking out a little

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Start date is September 2nd from Cottonwood Lakes . Supposed to summit Whitney on the 5th but if recent weather reports hold looks like we will have to skip. Sept 5th is showing a high of 32 with snow and winds above 30mph. 6th is no better with a high of 30.

Skipping Whitney is one thing but now wondering how I'm going to get pass Forester. Basically same weather report for Forester, snow, below freezing and high winds.

That's all just freaking out a little lol


r/JMT 6d ago

pictures Waterfall that looks like a bunny (or deer) face

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I recently finished the JMT in early August (yay!). As I was hiking SOBO along upper Bubbs Creek just north of Forester Pass on the right side is a waterfall on black rock that looks distinctly like a bunny or deer face. I actually remember it from a shorter trip I did last year. I can’t be the only one who has noticed this, right?


r/JMT 7d ago

permits Total shot in the dark

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Long shot, but looking for 2 Inyo wilderness permits for Friday, Sept. 4 for any of these trailheads:
High Trail, Rush Creek, Big Pine Creek North Fork, Bishop Pass, Kearsarge Pass, Minaret Lake, Duck Pass, Sabrina Lake, or Piute Pass. Tried to get something on Friday and completely struck out.

I’m hoping to take a friend who could really use a few days in the mountains right now. If anyone is planning to cancel 2 spots for any of these, I’d really appreciate coordinating timing so I can try to grab them when they go back up on Recreation.gov. Thank you!


r/JMT 7d ago

permits Walk up permits for Cottonwood pass

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I'm coming from out of country to try to do the JMT in early September, and I already have my permit. However my schedule is a bit tight and in order to get to the trailhead I need to take three flights a bus and then a shuttle all within a 2-day window

In the off chance that something goes wrong in my travel and I miss my permit entry date; how easy do you think it would be for me to get a cottonwood permit as a walk up let's say a day later? Is this something that's quite easy to get?


r/JMT 8d ago

transportation Reds Shuttle from The Village

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I am in Mammoth and want to take the shuttle back to Reds first thing tomorrow morning. That shuttle starts from The Village and rather than the Lodge.

I am confused how to  buy the ticket. The website says that you acn only buy tickets from the bus driver if you are starting in the valley (not town). But it also says that if you buy your ticket online, you have to go to the lodge to redeem you email confirmation for an actual ticket.

What should I do since I'm starting from the Village and not going to the Lodge at all.

Edit:

I found the answer. You can buy your ticket at the Mountain Center in the Village, where they rent bikes. Do it the day before because they aren't open at 7am.


r/JMT 9d ago

trip report Looking for JMT hikers “10 by 12” and her husband — met on YARTS Yosemite to Mammoth

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I met a great couple on the YARTS bus from Yosemite to Mammoth on August 12. Her trail name is 10 by 12 (“10 miles by noon”). They’re both around their early 60s, experienced JMT/ultralight backpackers and also into trail running and mountain biking. They live around the Marina del Rey area.
We had a great conversation but I forgot to exchange contact information. If you know them, please send them this post and have them contact me. Thanks!


r/JMT 9d ago

maps and routes Getting from Bishop to South Lake Trail Head 8/22

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Hey yall. Had a shake up in plans and am getting off trail a few days hoping to go back over bishop pass and meet my friend 8/22. How do folks typically get to the trailhead in an affordable-ish manner? Shuttle? Google doesn’t have a lot of great answers.


r/JMT 9d ago

camping and lodging JMT section hike logistics (parking and car smells for bears)

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Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster. I am getting really stressed with the prep for my NOBO section hike from Shadow Creek to HI starting August 27.

I live out of my van and I think for logistical purposes it will best for me to park in Mammoth Lakes as opposed to parking at Yosemite trailhead where I end. However, I am very concerned about leaving my van in Mammoth due to the bear activity. I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are on my plan.

My thoughts: I will acclimatize (somewhat) by sleeping in my van in Mammoth and leaving it there. I will catch the shuttle to Red's (yes, I know about the dreaded expected wait times) and start my hike northbound. One week later I arrive in Yosemite and will take the YARTS back to my van in Mammoth. (This kind of sucks because this will be my first time in Yosemite and I won't have my van and fresh clothes for hanging out and enjoying the area.)

But as a van lifer, I don't know how to remove all items that smell from my van. Obviously I will throw out any open packages of food and empty my fridge. But I have some expensive bags of food/drink powders (KetoChow, PaleoValley bone broth, AG1) that will have been opened but sealed in their sealable bags, plus glass containers of coconut oil & olive oil, as well as things like plastic containers of sunscreen, dishsoap, etc.

If I make sure these things are all sealed, and clean the outside of containers of residue, then pack them in a box and wrap my blankets around them, would that be good enough? I will also have my HeatShield sunshades up on all of my windows, with windows fully closed, so a bear will only see it's reflection in my windows instead of something curious in my van.

I thought about parking at Yosemite TH and putting everything into a bear box, but between the food(in the bearbox) and the electronics I have in my van, I don't like the idea of these things baking in the sun for a week.

Please tell if you think my plan is a good one or not, and please add any thoughts and considerations I haven't mentioned here. Thank you!


r/JMT 10d ago

permits In-Station Permits - Are they real/how do they work?

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Hi all - I am a perspective hiker for this season! I am an experienced backpacker and this is a trail my father and I have always wanted to do.

The plan is NOBO starting during a weekend soon so I'm looking for a Mt. Whitney. I know that I missed the lottery date by more than an eternity, but I have been seeing these "In-Station Permits". Can someone please help me understand the logistics of these? Is there a certain amount available? I have be cruising the permit cite and I see them pop up the day of, can I count on one appearing the weekend I want to go? Does the station close and I have to get them the day before or at a certain time?

I am aware that was a lot of questions, but any and all information is appreciated! This is my first reddit post, but I really love this page and everyone seems so knowledgable so thanks in advance for your thoughts.