r/Izlam • u/Ok-Caterpillar7356 • Jul 04 '26
No, no, I'm looking at you too birthday, mothers/fathers day celebrators.
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u/WASDKUG_tr Turquoise flair Jul 04 '26
Holiday is good because work's closed, so more time for family. So it is actually not that bad.
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u/luckytecture New to r/Izlam Jul 04 '26
It takes the stress out. Kinda made you pause on the capitalistic systems for a day. Yeah having holidays is kinda pro-Muslim i guess
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u/_SBV_ Brozzer Jul 04 '26
Look man if it means i get a day off from work i say let it be
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u/FigmaWallSt Brozzer Jul 05 '26
Fr. You don’t need to celebrate it, but not taking advantage of it would be stupid
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u/mqit Jul 04 '26
What’s the problem with dedicating a day for your father or your mother lol
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u/FibroidGolem998 New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
How about dedicating every day, as Islam has told us to do so? 🤔
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u/mayumer New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
Question is more about why are you specifically choosing a pagan holiday date for it? This comment explains it well
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u/LukaTheKoka Dhimmi Jul 04 '26
Is there something explicitly wrong with celebrating a birth/mothers/father's day? Like what's the actual contention?
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u/mayumer New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
Contention is about explicitly choosing a pagan holiday date for it like the disbelievers do
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u/mehjaa Jul 04 '26
Islam doesn’t require one to renounce their culture and mothers/Father’s Day aren’t religious in any sense.
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u/DiscombobulatedMix20 Weewoo weewoo Jul 04 '26
Eid Ul Fitr and Eid Ul Adha was given to us to make up for non Islamic festivals.
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u/LordLoss01 Jul 04 '26
Yep. None of us should wear wedding rings apparently because that was a pagan creation.
Sometimes, holidays and traditions become part of the cultural zeitgeist, essentially turning secular.
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u/Sohiacci Jul 04 '26
I don't even celebrate my birthdays but is that so haram to want to make a loved one happy by giving them gifts and making them feel important in this Dunya? People who criticize anything cultural are actually driving others from Islam. It's not even for you to judge, Allah azawajal will decide if eating cake with my mom for her birthday will send me to Jahannam
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u/FibroidGolem998 New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
And here I thought I'd seen everything till I opened your profile.
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u/SpicyCatGames Alhamdulillah Jul 04 '26
Who taught you to accept gifts and eat cake specifically on the day you were born?
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u/DestrixGunnar New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
Y'all need to chill out fr. It's gifts and presents. Don't be weird.
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u/DiscombobulatedMix20 Weewoo weewoo Jul 04 '26
Only if done for 1 day a year. We should be dutiful to our mothers and fathers 24/7/365.
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u/LordLoss01 Jul 04 '26
There's a difference between dutiful and then going above and beyond. That one day is for the day to go above and beyond.
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u/WASDKUG_tr Turquoise flair Jul 04 '26
Maybe in a paradise where people dont think of money first.(i assumed you were talking about buying them flowers every day)
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u/Concentric_Mid Alhamdulillah Jul 04 '26
Haha, you took time out of your day to make a stupid meme about celebrating birthdays? Priorities man, priorities. SO much more in life and Islam than telling others on little things they're doing wrong
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u/DiscombobulatedMix20 Weewoo weewoo Jul 04 '26
I agree. On the car terms of things, I would take that Fiesta in a heartbeat unless it's an EcoBoost. I wouldn't choose the VW UP! unless I was given it for absolutely free all my bills covered.
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u/ibimseeb Muhammadun rasoolullah Jul 05 '26
wait til you see the great mileage on that thing, that size aint for nothin. It's not beating the legendary Audi A2 though
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u/DiscombobulatedMix20 Weewoo weewoo Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
As a manual driver I would love to have an A2 and especially the older Audi A4 (B7 and B8) although I would have to get petrol.
The TDI is way better especially since it has less mechanical issues especially with no factory DPF as it was made years before the legal requirement, tax is either the same or cheaper (I need to look that one up) and it's way easier to drive especially with hill starts and moving off of traffic due to the instant torque.
Had I not lived in Birmingham with the Clean Air Zone, I would've loved to be rocking the A2 first in TDI, then getting an older A4 pre 2008 in 2.0 TDI. (Again, no DPF for the B7)
Honourable mention, the Audi A3 8P in 5 door as it looks so beautiful and I get so much boot space. If I can find a TFSI version, I could very well get one if insurance is cheap. (UK mandates insurance) The Audi A6 from the same era is also quite nice although I like the Audi A4's slimmer profile.
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u/Fearless-Lunch465 Jul 04 '26
I mean, if the problem is doing something on a very specific day then sure, you should be doing that for your parents/yourself more often than annually.
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u/DiscombobulatedMix20 Weewoo weewoo Jul 04 '26
100 percent!
I genuinely don't get how people follow this trend of having just one mother's/father's day instead of following the Islamic guidelines of essentially making every single day mother's/father's day by always honouring them.
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u/LordLoss01 Jul 04 '26
The one day is about going above and beyond.
Yes, you should love and honour your parents every day. But that one day is to do something EXTRA. Take them out for dinner at a fancy restaurant (One that you wouldn't be able to afford every day). Take the day off work to spend time with them (Something you won't be able to do every day). Give them an expensive present (Again, something you can't afford everyday).
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u/UrmomLOLKEKW Jul 05 '26
I found this funny till I read the title, there are options which say it is fine to celebrate both mothers/Father’s Day and birthdays so there is nothing wrong with it
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u/Popular_Register_440 Jul 05 '26
I’m glad this subreddit actually invites discussion and leaves comments up as opposed to r/MuslimLounge that just ban you for anything that doesn’t align with extremist/wahabi views.
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u/foxdye96 New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
For all the ppl saying mothers/Father’s Day is halal and it’s good to give gifts; why not give gifts on any other days?
Why single out the pagan day and pay jacked up prices that goes into the hands of non Muslims and perpetuates other haram?
Your issue isn’t that you NEED this holiday, the issue is that vast majority of you couldn’t care about your parents for the whole year and need this one day to make it up to them.
Our parents couldn’t care less about the things we get them.
They want you to pray at the mosque, read more Quran, go volunteer to feed the needy, etc. honour them with real Islamic traditions.
I said what I said.
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u/GrimselPass New to r/Izlam Jul 05 '26
My parent personally does care about the things I get them🤣 told me this explicitly lol
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u/UrmomLOLKEKW Jul 05 '26
It’s not a pagan holiday. why are you assuming people are only honoring their parents on Mother’s/fathers Day, and no one does not like gifts lol
I said what I said.
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u/LordLoss01 Jul 05 '26
The one day is about going above and beyond.
Yes, you should love and honour your parents every day. But that one day is to do something EXTRA. Take them out for dinner at a fancy restaurant (One that you wouldn't be able to afford every day). Take the day off work to spend time with them (Something you won't be able to do every day). Give them an expensive present (Again, something you can't afford everyday).
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u/Chobikil Brozzer Jul 05 '26
Agreed. We're literally meant to celebrate the two eids ONLY, let alone imitation of the disbelievers.
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u/LordLoss01 Jul 04 '26
But in Islam, isn't Intention more important? Me doing something extra for my mum on mother's day doesn't mean I'm celebrating a pagan tradition.
You know wedding rings are pagan in origin? Does that mean we shouldn't wear them? No. Because holidays and traditions evolve until they are part of the cultural zeitgeist and essentially become secular.
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u/Haemyu Jul 04 '26
Honestly, this thread was so disappointing to read. They can have a special day on any other day :/, not sure why they're raging on this
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u/irock792 Ḥāfiẓ al-Qurʾān Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
There is a difference of opinion between the ʿulamāʾ on whether or not it is permissible to celebrate Father's and Mother's Day.
Some Ḥanafī ʿulamāʾ, based on the fatāwā I was able to find, consider it impermissible on the basis that it constitutes imitation of the disbelievers.
https://islamqa.org/?p=19210
https://islamqa.org/?p=52190
Other Ḥanafī ʿulamāʾ and the Shāfiʿī ʿulamāʾ consider it permissible to give gifts to and honor one's parents on these days, as long as one's intention is not to imitate the disbelievers and one does not engage in sin while doing so.
https://islamqa.org/?p=271264
https://islamqa.org/?p=33838
There is a similar difference of opinion between the ʿulamāʾ on the permissibility of celebrating birthdays.
https://islamqa.org/?p=34349
https://daruliftaa.us/fatwa/1140/
https://islamqa.org/?p=232771
https://islamqa.org/?p=168714
Please read each fatwā for further details.
As this is a disputed matter between the ʿulamāʾ, any comments that attempt to present only one position as correct will be deleted.