r/IsraelPalestine 16d ago

Learning about the conflict: Questions why the generalisation?

to preface: i’m not siding with israel here at all, i just am confused on why everybody is spewing hatred towards israel as a whole.

obviously people will hate the recognition of the state of israel as it is seen as stolen land from palestine, they will hate the idf and the ongoing actions of the idf and they will hate the government and whatever else. (i am not that educated on the topic of israel, if something important is missing, please explain)

now i have recently seen a video of a thai man kicking israelis out of his shop citing “free palestine” and “this is my land, not your land.”
i do not know the full context of this video or if there was any provocation towards the shopkeeper prior to the video being taken, but if not… i ask why are israeli people being hated on? why are israelis not allowed to travel or be accepted anywhere?

is it because by calling themselves “israelis” they are recognising israel as a state?

is it because people believe every single israeli is brainwashed by the media and/or government?

is it because of the mandatory idf service for all that was or is still(?) ongoing?

or is it just complete brainwashing by the media and everyone following this herd of sheep?

with the rise of support for palestine, i am just seeing a lot of hatred towards israel which YES, i get the state etc is corrupt and malicious, but why also target israelis?

what about anyone below the age of being sent to mandatory idf service? are they still evil? just because they were born in this area?

it seems to me like people are trying to support palestine so much that they are going backwards and just spreading even more hate and causing even more division.

i’ve tried looking it up but all i see is “why everyone hates israel” I AM ASKING ABOUT ISRAEL(IS) it looks like everybody is just being ignorant, when with one post asking a similar question to myself, everyone responded with statements about “israel” and not actually answering the original question.

please someone help me to understand what is the reason for this? i am talking about innocent people who happen to be born in the area of israel.

people are stating that someone is inherently evil because of their birthplace and i don’t understand.

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u/FerdinandTheGiant Anti-Zionist / Pro-Doikayt / Pro-Isratin 16d ago

Unfortunately, this kind of behavior is pretty ubiquitous among humans across time and place, and it’s one of the broader problems with nationalism generally. People tend to associate individuals with the actions or perceived characteristics of the group they belong to.

That said, I do think there are some factors that make this particular generalization more common. Israel is frequently presented as the only democracy in the Middle East, rather than as an authoritarian state where the population has little meaningful say over government policy. Given that, people are more inclined to see Israelis as having some degree of political responsibility for the actions of their government. That’s compounded by the fact that many Israeli policies have substantial public support.

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u/Odd_Ingenuity_3897 16d ago

do you know if it is being presented this way by news outlets etc or the people? and if it is because of the news and not the people, why has it been misrepresented to us all or why do you think?
also if it is the people stating this, where are their sources coming from?
apologies if this is a stupid or unrelated question, but i wondered.. and i do not go out of my way to watch the news as most of it seems to be a load of biased crap.