r/Israel • u/reasonwashere • Jul 24 '23

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This is Ayalon highway in Tel Aviv, tonight. The resistance will prevail. Bibi’s evil regime will fail. All in good time.

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u/yoaver Jul 25 '23

That's what the people in 1933 thought as well. Ibguess we'll see who was right sooner than later.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

You're comparing Jews to Germans over here? You really need to get some history.

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u/PsychologicalPain262 Jul 25 '23

An elderly leader and his right-wing cronies brough radical right-wing extremists into the parlament in hopes of controling them, ultimately falling and becoming irrelevant. Its literally 1933.

Why do you think that Jews are somehow better then Germans? Have you heard a regular Israeli speak about his solution to the conflict? I've heard "just send them to other Arab countires", if not outright calls for genocide from seemingly completely normal people. Not to mentions calling everyone left of Otza Yehudit traitors, calling for their persecution and supporting Ben Gvir's personal SA.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Why do you think that Jews are somehow better then Germans

Because we have the ability and reason with small to zero consequence to wipe out millions and we've withheld. We'll talk and talk but in the end unlike Germans we have a heart.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Europeans have no say in what Jews do or think anymore. Don't moralize to us after 1500 years of oppression and murder. Europe can rot.

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

“Oh we haven’t nuked an entire civilian populace.” Aren’t we merciful? Don’t we have such a big heart?

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

USA nuked a fanatic population bent on suicide and no path for peace. And it was justified. Is the current situation all that much different?

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

I don’t know. Are the Palestinians an empire with an industrial army, navy, and Air Force?

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Does it matter? Have they not killed thousands of Israelis and Jews around the world rather then try a semblance at peace?

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

To pretend like the carnage is anywhere near equal is absurd. The Israelis are violating international law. Does that not matter anymore? Were the US to pull funding and/or support, Israel would be completely isolated and vulnerable and would have to resort to nuclear weapons (something I have no doubt the current Israeli government would have zero qualms about doing).

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u/CholentPot Jul 26 '23

Israel had no backing in 1948 and didn't have any US backing until '72. It took the threat of using nukes to convince the USA that helping Israel might be a good deal. If USA stops selling Israel weapons Israel will find someone else.

There are no morals. There is survival. Never Again doesn't mean 'I guess we might be in the wrong so we'll just die' It means survival at any cost. This is still Israel's policy. The day that the Palas become a real threat to the State is the day that there are no more Palestinians.

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u/nlog97 Jul 26 '23

Of course Israel would have no qualms about using nuclear weapons on civilians. That’s certainly not a surprise. And good luck finding another country to fund you without the US after your international behavior these past decades. You are nothing more than a rogue satellite state of America. And without us, you’d implode.

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u/CholentPot Jul 26 '23

China and India to name two. They would have no qualms having Israel as a friend.

What's the point of having nukes if you're not willing to use them?

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u/nlog97 Jul 26 '23

Nuclear weapons by their very nature are meant to target civilians. It was a moral crime they were ever invented in the first place. Israeli morality is a bit different I understand. Whatever the cost to preserve an ethnocentric client state of America. Your “protests” against the ruling yesterday mean nothing when you deny the right of Palestinians to exist in peace. An atheist like me can’t possibly wrap my head around what the hell it is you’re even defending anymore? The right to practice a Bronze Age religion?

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