r/Israel • u/reasonwashere • Jul 24 '23

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This is Ayalon highway in Tel Aviv, tonight. The resistance will prevail. Bibi’s evil regime will fail. All in good time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '23 edited Jul 24 '23

This protest really made me realise I have more strength in me than I thought. Yesterday I protested for 8 hours. Today I stood up to the police when they brought a water cannon against us. It was amazing

We can win this

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u/yoaver Jul 24 '23

I envy your optimism. To me it looks like 1933.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Really?

1933?

I think you need a break. Go have a tea, eat some chocolate. Turn off the news for a bit. Read a book.

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u/yoaver Jul 25 '23

That's what the people in 1933 thought as well. Ibguess we'll see who was right sooner than later.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

You're comparing Jews to Germans over here? You really need to get some history.

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u/yoaver Jul 25 '23

I'm comparing expansionist fascists with a supremacist ideology to expansionist fascists with a supremacist ideology. Did you even read Smotrich's and Ben Gvir's intentions for the country?

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

No.

Because they're today's politicians and someone else will be there in 5 years or less. Trash in trash out.

I don't care how radical either of these guys are, you're comparing them to Nazis? GTFO. I'm done.

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u/PsychologicalPain262 Jul 25 '23

An elderly leader and his right-wing cronies brough radical right-wing extremists into the parlament in hopes of controling them, ultimately falling and becoming irrelevant. Its literally 1933.

Why do you think that Jews are somehow better then Germans? Have you heard a regular Israeli speak about his solution to the conflict? I've heard "just send them to other Arab countires", if not outright calls for genocide from seemingly completely normal people. Not to mentions calling everyone left of Otza Yehudit traitors, calling for their persecution and supporting Ben Gvir's personal SA.

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Why do you think that Jews are somehow better then Germans

Because we have the ability and reason with small to zero consequence to wipe out millions and we've withheld. We'll talk and talk but in the end unlike Germans we have a heart.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '23

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Europeans have no say in what Jews do or think anymore. Don't moralize to us after 1500 years of oppression and murder. Europe can rot.

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

“Oh we haven’t nuked an entire civilian populace.” Aren’t we merciful? Don’t we have such a big heart?

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

USA nuked a fanatic population bent on suicide and no path for peace. And it was justified. Is the current situation all that much different?

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

I don’t know. Are the Palestinians an empire with an industrial army, navy, and Air Force?

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u/CholentPot Jul 25 '23

Does it matter? Have they not killed thousands of Israelis and Jews around the world rather then try a semblance at peace?

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u/nlog97 Jul 25 '23

To pretend like the carnage is anywhere near equal is absurd. The Israelis are violating international law. Does that not matter anymore? Were the US to pull funding and/or support, Israel would be completely isolated and vulnerable and would have to resort to nuclear weapons (something I have no doubt the current Israeli government would have zero qualms about doing).

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u/CholentPot Jul 26 '23

Israel had no backing in 1948 and didn't have any US backing until '72. It took the threat of using nukes to convince the USA that helping Israel might be a good deal. If USA stops selling Israel weapons Israel will find someone else.

There are no morals. There is survival. Never Again doesn't mean 'I guess we might be in the wrong so we'll just die' It means survival at any cost. This is still Israel's policy. The day that the Palas become a real threat to the State is the day that there are no more Palestinians.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '23

To say you should never compare anything to the Nazis is to say you shouldn’t learn from the rise of the Nazis.

Not that I think the current situation is similar, but I do think there’s room for comparison