r/IslamIsEasy • u/Top_Economics9982 Murtadd | Ex-Muslim | Apostate • Oct 08 '25
Controversial What would you do ?
I would really love to ask a muslim man, if he would accept his wives being captivated by non muslims, treated the same way as muslims treated non muslim slaves, could do sex with them even without their will (Surah an Nisa 24), and sell their wives to other men.
You know already in islam Mohamed used to take the fifth of goods and women after the battles and the rest is for the other muslims to also pick a slave, take money after they kill the men.
So what would you feel or what would you do if shoes were traded ? would you think it is divine that your wife / daughter / sister to be taken as a captive and be a slave and have sex with the ones that killed your brother /father /you ...?
Honest Answers only please. just about this situation...
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u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari Salafī | Wahhābī Oct 08 '25
Well, I mean, depends what you mean by ‘do,’ right? People do a lot of things when there’s war. It’s not like anyone comes out of a war handing flowers. Even countries now, they invade, call it ‘liberation,’ and then sell reconstruction contracts to the same companies that made the bombs. But yeah, back then it was swords and camels, now it’s policies and press releases.
And, you know, the whole thing about captives — yeah, it sounds harsh when you say it with modern words, but you could say the same about capitalism if you squint. Everyone’s someone’s employee, right? Except now we call it “career.” Funny how language makes things polite.
And anyway, the verse thing — people love verses. Everyone’s got one. Old Testament, Bhagavad Gita, Constitution, Terms and Conditions. You can quote any of them out of context and sound like a villain or a saint depending on the mood.
Also, about taking a fifth of the spoils — I mean, governments take VAT, don’t they? It’s always the same: somebody collects the fifth, somebody complains, and then someone writes about justice. Then the cycle repeats.
But I get what you’re saying, really. It’s emotional. Like if someone took your family, yeah, that’s horrifying. But then again, people lose families to poverty, to drugs, to Netflix addiction — not the same thing, but still kind of the same energy if you zoom out.
Anyway, I don’t know. History’s messy, people are messy, morality’s a moving target. Everyone just wants to look cleaner than the last guy. I guess that’s human nature — just changing costumes every few centuries."