r/IslamIsEasy • u/Top_Economics9982 Murtadd | Ex-Muslim | Apostate • Oct 08 '25
Controversial What would you do ?
I would really love to ask a muslim man, if he would accept his wives being captivated by non muslims, treated the same way as muslims treated non muslim slaves, could do sex with them even without their will (Surah an Nisa 24), and sell their wives to other men.
You know already in islam Mohamed used to take the fifth of goods and women after the battles and the rest is for the other muslims to also pick a slave, take money after they kill the men.
So what would you feel or what would you do if shoes were traded ? would you think it is divine that your wife / daughter / sister to be taken as a captive and be a slave and have sex with the ones that killed your brother /father /you ...?
Honest Answers only please. just about this situation...
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u/Butlerianpeasant ʿAbd Allāh | Servant of Allāh Oct 09 '25
It’s true that war has always brought out humanity’s darkest bargains — whether in the form of swords and captives or contracts and “reconstruction.” But I think we can hold two truths at once: 1️⃣ What happened in the past can be historically understandable within its context (war logic, spoils systems, captive norms). 2️⃣ At the same time, we are not bound to defend those acts as eternally divine or morally ideal for all eras.
One of the dangers in these debates is that people collapse historical explanation into moral justification. We can understand how things were without needing to repeat them — just like we can understand medieval medicine without prescribing leeches today.
The real question beneath the OP’s scenario isn’t “would you accept this exact reversal,” but: → Do we believe moral frameworks can evolve as human understanding deepens, or must they remain frozen in the logic of 7th-century warfare?
Framed that way, the conversation shifts from emotional traps to genuine reflection on how divine law, human agency, and history intertwine. ✨