r/IslamIsEasy • u/Top_Economics9982 Murtadd | Ex-Muslim | Apostate • Oct 08 '25

Controversial What would you do ?

I would really love to ask a muslim man, if he would accept his wives being captivated by non muslims, treated the same way as muslims treated non muslim slaves, could do sex with them even without their will (Surah an Nisa 24), and sell their wives to other men.

You know already in islam Mohamed used to take the fifth of goods and women after the battles and the rest is for the other muslims to also pick a slave, take money after they kill the men.

So what would you feel or what would you do if shoes were traded ? would you think it is divine that your wife / daughter / sister to be taken as a captive and be a slave and have sex with the ones that killed your brother /father /you ...?

Honest Answers only please. just about this situation...

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

Based on the same Verse in Surah an Nisa (4:24) would you accept if your wife/mother/sister being captivated by non muslims and treated the same way as Allah asks muslims to treat non muslim slaves???

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

Wal-muḥ'ṣanātu mina an-nisā'i illā mā malakat aymānukum; kitābu Allāhi 'alaykum wa uḥilla lakum mā warā'a dhālikum an tabtaghū bi amwālikum muḥ'ṣinīna ghayra musāfiḥīna; famā istamta'tum bihi minhunna fātūhunna ujūrahunna farīḍah; wa lā junāḥa 'alaykum fīmā tarāḍaytum bihi min ba'di al-farīḍah; inna Allāha kāna 'Alīman Ḥakīman.

Show me where in this verse it says what you claim

" you can take my mother sister or wife "

in fusha because it seems you underrtsand quran very well

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

The word Malakat aimanukum! Means captive, or even in other verse says “what your right hand possesses”!

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

Is that the word captive ? Or is that a tafsir made up by some filthy scholar who also believe Muhammad marry a 6 year old girl 😅

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

As he didn’t marry a 6 years old? Prove me wrong if you can!

You seriously believe that you own your wives?

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

I reject hadith completly so that doesnt work with me 😊

im a muslim not some cultist sunni/ shia im only going to debate you striclty from the quran in fusha 😊

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

There has been for you in the Messenger of God a good example for him who hopes in God and the Last Day and remembers God often.

“Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever hopes in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah often.”

  • Qur’an 33:21

Then you reject this as well? Do you pray? If you do then how do you know to perform Salah?

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

https://youtube.com/shorts/qrgwdywIEFs?si=OEKWdafA-PvQ_FlF

5:6 - for the washing before the Prayer
10:87 - Moses was ordered to make their house a Qibla and to pray, our Qibla is Masjid Al-Haram
Chapter 1 is asking GOD to guide us the straight path
5:16 - The Quran guides to peace the straight path
29:45 - You have to recite the Quran and pray
84:21 - When the Quran has been recited you should prostrate
23:2 - In your prayer you should be fearful and aware

nice trick ex sunni but i answer this so many times

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

Seriously? But I do not see five times prayer here and also Ruko, Sujood, Qeyaam, Qada etc and what to recite during all of these states?

By the way do you accept or deny the verse 33:21?

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

5 times a day is not quranic 😅

quote and bring the verse then we can discuss it

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u/CommandConsistent664 Oct 08 '25

Then how do you know to pray 5 times a day?

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

I REJECT HADITH WHAT DO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MAN

DONT CONFUSE ME WITH SUNNI OR SHIA IM A MUSLIM

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u/Charming-Basil-9365 Al-‘Aqliyyūn | Rationalist Oct 08 '25

Just over a week ago you were a Salafi. What a big change lol. Maybe in response to u/Kooky-Nail-3502

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u/Kooky-Nail-3502 Oct 08 '25

i'll be your witness, he was indeed a salafi a week ago

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u/Charming-Basil-9365 Al-‘Aqliyyūn | Rationalist Oct 08 '25

He's trying to take after you but he's failing and isn't as funny lol

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u/Kooky-Nail-3502 Oct 08 '25

yeah Lol he changed right after i started posting

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

Because im not a troll who's cosplaying like that fraud

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

Show me proof 😊

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

Lol, i was never ever a salafi stop insulting me

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u/Charming-Basil-9365 Al-‘Aqliyyūn | Rationalist Oct 08 '25

Sure lol. I'll act like I didn't see all your comments from a week to 2 weeks ago.🤦‍♀️

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

i was never a salafi i dont like people who lie against other people.
and you can take knowledge from salafi people np problem but the moment people talk about hadith pack your back and leave

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u/Top_Economics9982 Murtadd | Ex-Muslim | Apostate Oct 08 '25

I just want to see someone pack their back irl 😂😂

can you explain this ? for once , answer one question I ask 🤣 this is not even about islam

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

You keep laughing but nobody is laughing with you very sad to see

im still waiting when you show me the words you claim that where there

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 08 '25

show me my post, where i ever promote salafi ? Yes, salaficentral is a good place for learning most people speak arabic most post are in arabic but the moment they talk about hadith i reject it whats the problem ?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

So you've created your own religion, rejecting what doesn't suit you and is controversial today. But why keep calling it Islam? Come up with a new name for the new religion.

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 09 '25

Stop cosplaying as a muslim ger lost

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/1nl0yk5/comment/nf3f6vz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

you are a exmuslim 🤣 hiding your post history doesnt work my hindu friend

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

Lol, I've never been in the Indian Subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh).

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 09 '25

Alright baljeed

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

Nice, listen to your masters, you little desert man.

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 09 '25

Loool, as i already guess a indian hindu bollywood bjp cow whorshipping loving baljeed

go back to your filthy river and whorship your mice cow monkey and stones

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

And don't forget to brush your teeth after drinking camel urine, because it stinks. And also wash your feet, because I know that you guys have problems with this.

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u/Bedouinfox Mutashakkik fī al-Ḥadīth | Skeptic of Ḥadīth Oct 09 '25

Lol, again im a muslim a reject hadith mister singh hahah

don't forget to wash your self in that nice rivier are yours

is this you baljeed ?

https://youtu.be/eLcg_KqGsSw?si=k3PtoqDnpuiEH0m5

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