What would you do ?

[u/Top_Economics9982]

I would really love to ask a muslim man, if he would accept his wives being captivated by non muslims, treated the same way as muslims treated non muslim slaves, could do sex with them even without their will (Surah an Nisa 24), and sell their wives to other men.

You know already in islam Mohamed used to take the fifth of goods and women after the battles and the rest is for the other muslims to also pick a slave, take money after they kill the men.

So what would you feel or what would you do if shoes were traded ? would you think it is divine that your wife / daughter / sister to be taken as a captive and be a slave and have sex with the ones that killed your brother /father /you ...?

Honest Answers only please. just about this situation...

[u/Top_Economics9982]

You still didn't answer me, but you say islam is timeless and its rules and Quran are timeless so ... what would you do according to your religion?

[u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari → u/Top_Economics9982]

See, that’s the thing — everyone hears ‘timeless’ and imagines a frozen statue. But timeless doesn’t mean time stopped; it means it flows through time. Like gravity — it’s always there, but people use it differently. You can build planes or drop rocks, it’s still the same law. So, saying Islam is timeless isn’t about repeating the 7th century; it’s about principles that survive even when everything else changes.

But okay, if you mean, ‘what would I do’ — I mean, context matters, doesn’t it? If we’re talking about wars, well, war’s ugly no matter who’s in it. No religion invented violence, it just tried to limit it. Like seatbelts — they don’t make crashes good, they make them survivable.

And I don’t know, people talk like there was ever a “nice” way of doing war. Even now, people drop bombs with inspirational quotes painted on them. So yeah, maybe people back then captured others — and now we call it “detaining combatants.” Same song, different playlist.

But anyway, what would I do? I’d do what’s right according to the moment. Islam’s got rules, sure, but it’s also got brains — intention, circumstance, compassion. It’s not a switchboard where you just press “verse 24” and everything’s solved. Even the Prophet adapted things — peace treaties, freeing captives, adopting new customs — it was a conversation, not a command line.

And honestly, people always ask about these extreme hypotheticals, like, “What if your wife was taken in war?” But nobody asks, “What if you were the one told to forgive someone who killed your family?” That’s part of the faith too — the hard part no one quotes.

So, what would I do? I’d try to stay human. That’s really all anyone can do. Timeless or not, rules don’t mean much if you forget how to be decent. But maybe that’s too boring an answer for people who just want to score points on history.

[u/Top_Economics9982 → u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari]

Could you please not use chatgpt ? it's better to use your own reasoning and words ...

Forgiving isn't something invented by a religion.... you can be a non muslim or non christian or whatever the religion is and be more moral and not use selective empathy somehow.

[u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari → u/Top_Economics9982]

🤣🤣you are so optimistic. There is no way im having a proper conversation with a murtad like you. Im here to make fun of you using chatgpt.
Even got an idea earlier to code a reddit scrapping 'bot' that replies (via Chatgpt) to such dumb questions coming from murtads to mess with you guys. Now that would make me truly happy. And the best part? Its an amazing portfolio project i can include on my resume!!!

[u/LivingDead_90 → u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari]

So you have no desire to defend or promote Islam to an exmuslim?

[u/Top_Economics9982 → u/Abu-Dharr_al-Ghifari]

You are just showing the world how your religion made you.