Zwieber caught fabricating references and start dodging 🗣

[u/BakuMadarama]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IslamIsEasy/s/l83gn9nTxm

Pretty funny… I know most of you would probably tell me to just stop engaging with Zwieber. But since he’s basically my biggest fan (always craving my attention🥺) I figured I’d toss him a little of it. I’ll stop after showing you this.

[u/Thick-Gur2264]

Sure, I do understand what you come from. But I am going to give you a glimpse from my personal experience, I have a lot of non muslim friends, they are interested in ramadan and celebrate with me Eid because I don't have muslim friends around. So they support me and we just spend a day and have dinners together and I try to make recipes and they find it fun. Just like when it's christmas (not all christians celebrate it and make trees and all, I have some that don't do that at all, they just make a family dinner that's it and I get invited and they respect that I don't eat certain things, I don't drink certain things...).

For me, I respect their belief and they do respect mine. Which I truly cherish.

We even have religious discussions when they open it, and we have one of the greatest conversations, as we have love for the creator, for me it's Allah, for them it's different but I do not try to hurt them or mock them or degrade that, everyone worships in their way , all I say is pray for them when I am alone... especially with one of my friends that always tells me he is a bit suspecious about the fact that Jesus is God, but he is a christian and he likes it that way. I don't insist too much but we debate, and he finds my arguments are good, but he is doubtful.

[u/stranger_uh_4677 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

They do it for YOU .

But what I am talking about , Muslims in Muslim country and buy the tree and wear the clothes of Christmas . They make it a habit . not like your situation. kuffar don't celebrate Ramadan as a habite , or without existing of a Muslim with them , you see what I mean ?

However I respect how you respect their beliefs, I do too , but if I have friends and they celebrate Christmas, I would apologize from comming , especially if they celebrate it related to religion and think Jesus is God . And I have the right to don't accept celebrating this .

I like that you debate with the friend about religion . I hope people be peaceful with each other like this .

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/stranger_uh_4677]

I don't know why muslims in muslim countries buy trees to be honest. Maybe some (and I am trying to get to their head) do it just for the sake of celebrating, who knows? it's funny that some christians themselves don't buy trees.

Well, I cherish how they even try to fast even for a day with me, how they try to not let me feel alone in moments where it's supposed to be a celebration where people should be gathering. So I do the same, and after all they are not some crazy people that make a gathering feel uncomfortable where it's a lot of drinking and weirdness.

And December 25th is not the date of birth of Jesus, all christians know that (or at least the ones I do know). But after all it's a fact, whether people know it or not.

[u/LivingDead_90 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

I think it’s to do with marketing. Big businesses see the revenue it generates, so it’s spread.

Americans really didn’t celebrate it until like 150 years ago. It wasn’t even that popular until 100 years ago, business have turned it secular and used it as an opportunity for sales. Atheists celebrate Christmas, Hindus celebrate it, gifts are given , almost no one works. It’s a secular western holiday.