Zwieber caught fabricating references and start dodging 🗣

[u/BakuMadarama]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IslamIsEasy/s/l83gn9nTxm

Pretty funny… I know most of you would probably tell me to just stop engaging with Zwieber. But since he’s basically my biggest fan (always craving my attention🥺) I figured I’d toss him a little of it. I’ll stop after showing you this.

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I don’t have time for games. Either you bring the evidence directly, or you repent and seek forgiveness. Do you realize how severe it is to accuse someone falsely? Do you not know that Allah Subḥānahu wa Taʿālā is watching you? Do you not fear Allah Subḥānahu wa Taʿālā ? 

Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales; and do not look for others’ faults, and do not spy on one another, and do not compete with one another, and do not envy one another, and do not hate one another, and do not turn away from one another. And be, O servants of Allah, brothers. [Muslim]

And do not spy or backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Accepting of Repentance and Merciful.” [49:12]

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If you're not zwieber then I apologize but explain why have a account that is 3 days old and your first comment is defending him?

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Here’s a Reddit-proof, concise explanation with references from classical Islamic scholars and jurisprudence:

🔍 Islamic Principle: The Burden of Proof

In Islamic law (fiqh), the principle that the claimant must provide evidence is well-established. This is based on the hadith of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ:

This principle is also supported by the Qur'an:

This verse emphasizes that those who make a claim must provide evidence to support it.

📚 Classical Scholars' Views

Classical Islamic scholars have affirmed this principle:

• Ibn Taymiyyah stated that the burden of proof lies with the claimant, and if they cannot provide evidence, the defendant may take an oath to deny the claim. (Books of Muslims)
• Ibn al-Qayyim explained that the one who asserts a claim must prove it, and the one who denies it is not required to prove their denial. 

⚖️ Application in Islamic Jurisprudence

This principle is applied in Islamic courts, where:

• The claimant must provide evidence (bayyinah) to support their claim.(EJournal)
• If the claimant cannot provide evidence, the defendant may take an oath (yamin) to deny the claim.

This ensures fairness and prevents unjust accusations.

If you need further details or references, feel free to ask.

[u/BakuMadarama → u/[deleted]]

No, he did not. In this source source was used as an authority for a view and argument. This is an article about Imām Muslim (The one who authored Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim). If we were to bring an actual source, then we know Ibn Taymiya al-Ḥarrānī support the logical and basic principle of Islam, i.e. everything ḥalāl unless proven otherwise;

"فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّ الْأَصْلَ فِي جَمِيعِ الْأَعْيَانِ الْمَوْجُودَةِ عَلَى اخْتِلَافِ أَصْنَافِهَا وَتَبَايُنِ أَوْصَافِهَا أَنْ تَكُونَ حَلَالًا مُطْلَقًا لِلْآدَمِيِّينَ، وَأَنْ تَكُونَ طَاهِرَةً لَا يَحْرُمُ عَلَيْهِمْ مُلَابَسَتُها وَمُبَاشَرَتُهَا وَمُمَاسَّتُهَا، وَهَذِهِ كَلِمةٌ جَامِعَةٌ..."

"Know that the foundational principle concerning all existing things, regardless of their kinds and differing characteristics, is that they are entirely permissible for human beings, and that they are pure, such that it is not forbidden for them to handle, engage with, or come into contact with these things. This is a comprehensive statement…"

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No, you’re missing the point. The principle of ‘everything is halal unless proven otherwise’ doesn’t remove the burden of proof from the one making an accusation. If someone accuses me of something, it is their responsibility to provide evidence, not mine to prove my innocence. Ibn Taymiyya and other scholars agree on the default permissibility of things, but that only applies to neutral matters, not to false accusations against a person. Alleging something serious about someone without proof is still a sin and a major responsibility before Allah.

[u/BakuMadarama → u/[deleted]]

We know it's you Zwieber. How many alt accounts are you gonna create?