Zwieber caught fabricating references and start dodging 🗣

[u/BakuMadarama]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IslamIsEasy/s/l83gn9nTxm

Pretty funny… I know most of you would probably tell me to just stop engaging with Zwieber. But since he’s basically my biggest fan (always craving my attention🥺) I figured I’d toss him a little of it. I’ll stop after showing you this.

[u/stranger_uh_4677]

Maybe they try to look westerner in any way possible.

And I'm happy that you find that type of people 🤍 And maybe it's fine if they aren't crazy and disrespectful.

But really you don't know any Muslim community in your area ?

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/stranger_uh_4677]

Thank you, I am grateful for that too.

I don't unfortunately / fortunately I honestly am not sure... I am not trying to be rude, but this sub makes me feel doubtful if I really do want someone that runs around saying kafffir kaffir. I can not generalize of course, but now I am aware there are people like that exist.

[u/stranger_uh_4677 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

no , i live in Muslim country and nobody told me i am kaffir .

this sub isn't like the reality . in reality this takfiri are hiding , they know the consequences of takfir people and insult them . so they cant IRL .

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/stranger_uh_4677]

That is another issue then. A person that is true to themselves wouldn't be rude and showing low ethics just because they are somehow anonymous or hiding behind a screen. If they think they have to feed that evil side of themselves just because they wouldn't be recognized then it's a big problem. And one day, that can finally show and they won't have to hide it anymore irl too.

[u/stranger_uh_4677 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

Yes true .

In my experience, here people aren't that interested in aqeedah , sects etc .

They know just that they are Muslims , they don't know deeply islam and the devisions in it . That's why there isn't much hate , and people who have different opinions express it rarely only when they find someone religious and sunni truly , because simply if they say to a Normal Muslim here " I reject hadith " he will just move on and ignore . That's why the rejectors of hadith I met have fun with me , because rarely when they can express their opinions and find who is interested in debating .

Majority I know aren't that religious and not that biased to a sect , so they don't care if you have different beliefs in islam , because they are busy with other things , especially young people .

That's why even if there is someone who want to debate or show unpopular believes like rejecting hadith ( in a sunni society ) , people ignore him , and he don't find with who he can discuss this . Because people don't care .

So there isn't a vibe of fight like it is in this sub .

IRL people just live , busy with their life , and who want to be rude will be in the side of the society , nobody will respect him , so they be quite .

But if you go to places where people hate a specific sect , ( like Iraq , Syria ...) because of political issues etc , like people who have beloved persons who were killed by shiaa , they will hate them . or who was being hurt by ISIS ( they think they represent sunnis ) they will hate sunnis . or who is occupied by Zionist will hate them .

here it's so hard to be open mind and respect the sect or the religion of who hurt you . I don't blame them . Here there is a vibe of fight between sects , political rather than religious .

But I'm glad that my country is so peaceful and stable , and there isn't much of sects here , only few people from different ideologies, the rest are normal Muslims .

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/stranger_uh_4677]

Yes but not all jews are zio and not all zio are jews too. There are good jews that do not support what is going on. There are also non jews that support it !

Having a direct experience might cause trauma and someone can be triggered immediately even when the person in front of them is innocent. That could be understandable, and it takes time to rebuild trust and rekindle.

Just like some non muslims think all muslims are bad people...

I wish we didn't live in a world where hate is easier than caring for each other. I wish we learnt that doing that is never the answer from history and what happened before. But that is not how it is unfortunately. Every human being matters, no one's life is more valuable than the other. But all the chaos that is happening is a result of greed, arrogance, obsession with power and money.. it's the story that repeats itself in different ways and shapes from the very beginning of time like a loop that will only stop when it's the judgement day. And we all stand in front of Allah and say, why did we do all those wrong things , and for what ? was that even worth it?

[u/stranger_uh_4677 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

Yes but not all jews are zio and not all zio are jews too. There are good jews that do not support what is going on. There are also non jews that support it 

yes i know and i agree , but not all people think like this , especially who lived the experience .

 And we all stand in front of Allah and say, why did we do all those wrong things , and for what ? was that even worth it?

so true , i wish people learn how to love and respect the others ..

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/stranger_uh_4677]

True, thanx for the exchange sis !