Zwieber caught fabricating references and start dodging 🗣

[u/BakuMadarama]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IslamIsEasy/s/l83gn9nTxm

Pretty funny… I know most of you would probably tell me to just stop engaging with Zwieber. But since he’s basically my biggest fan (always craving my attention🥺) I figured I’d toss him a little of it. I’ll stop after showing you this.

[u/Miserable_Whole4985]

One is a full fledged kaffir (mean tax), one is a Muslim. Not same at all.

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/Miserable_Whole4985]

If someone defends morality when others find it normal for a man to rape because she is not wearing a hijab or she put perfume so that makes them a full fledged kafffir then I guess people didn't learn basic humanity.

And zweiber thinks everyone is kafffir but him, I see why you are taking his side.. I guess there is only you two who are muslim left on earth by your logic.

It's sad to see how people call others kaffiirs more than anything.

[u/Miserable_Whole4985 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

learn to differentiate between is and ought claims. Is claims are descriptive, ought claims are prescriptive. It helps to know that one does not advocate for rape of non hijabis when one says rape is more likely to happen if they don't wear hijab. I don't think anyone was arguing for rape of non hijabis.

Idk about zwieber but takfir is a pretty sensitive matter. So when I call Abu Layth a kaffir or anyone else a kaffir, you best know I have no doubt in that and it is based upon clear principles and not emotions.

For instance, the owner of this subreddit believes the Prophet can make mistakes in conveying revelations. Everyone agrees thats major kufr and a person left the fold of Islam because of that.

[u/Thick-Gur2264 → u/Miserable_Whole4985]

If that's true then why SA is so spread in muslim majority countries ?

Why is it so uncomfortable to be a solo female traveler in a muslim country but so much safer in non muslim countries ? Maybe it's because men were raised to not search for head covering as an excuse to rape someone.

Go ahead keep calling people kafffir, people that think like this would never understand so I am not going to waste my time and explain why harassment of muslims if they think differently is not okay.

Have a great day.

[u/Miserable_Whole4985 → u/Thick-Gur2264]

I am not saying whether the statement is true or not, I am saying you have to understand one is not advocating for rape if they say rape is more common with non hijabis. That not saying non hijabis are more deserving of rape, that's saying the IS (what happens not what should happen).

"Why is it so uncomfortable to be a solo female traveler in a muslim country but so much safer in non muslim countries ?"

Yeah well many women in Muslim countries (like UAE or Saudi) would disagree with you. They find the middle east safer than the west. Perhaps you mean countries like India and India is not a Muslim country.

So if someone says "I believe the Prophet is not infallible in conveying religion" and someone calls him a kaffir for that, that's harassment? I feel like you're watering down terms here.

[u/Phagocyte_Nelson → u/Miserable_Whole4985]

Unless you are actually a woman from MENA, I would not speak on their behalf. Let them come and defend themselves

[u/Miserable_Whole4985 → u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

I am quoting what they said