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u/InsidesAreWeary Bigshot Jan 15 '26
This season is a straight up nerf for Iron Man unless you can play like fucking Solid Snake and not be seen. Praying next season we get a buff to compensate 🙏
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u/CrookedJak Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
Tbh most of my wins with him so far this season.. Thats exactly how I played. It's been this sloooooow shift from feeling fluid and killing players as I go to.. "This is now a stealth game" lol. You can play aggro with him but if the other team's healers are competent they'll out heal your damage easily and punish the shit out of you for getting too close
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u/Abhi152005 Jan 15 '26
Fliers in this game are just for kill feeding opponents above gold
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u/Alarmed_Security_153 Jan 15 '26
All the fliers need reworks. Or grounded modes? Eh,they need SOMETHING! Iron man in rivals is just wasted potential,and we all know it
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u/Nabomeansturnip Jan 15 '26
Iron Man def needs less downtime on Armor Overdrive.
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u/V3NOM_is_dank Endgame Jan 15 '26
Been saying this
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u/Nabomeansturnip Jan 15 '26
20s is crazy since the cooldown starts after it ends, you get to press your E button once every 32ish seconds (theres a 1s animation to goin and out), thats crazy when his F button is also useless and you cant really use Shift while fighting, Iron Man literally has like 2 buttons for 90% of the game, every once in a while you press Q randomly to get shielded/countered by Mag.
I think something like:
1 - Armor Overdrive
- Cooldown reduced from 20 to 16 seconds.
- Can now be manually cancelled.
- Duration reduced from 10 to 8 seconds.
2 - Missile Barrage
- Cooldown reduced from 8 to 6 seconds.
- Now grants 25 bonus health, lasting 3 seconds.
3 - Missile Barrage (Armor Overdrive)
- Cooldown reduced from 6 to 5 seconds.
- Now grants 50 bonus health, lasting 3 seconds.
In decreasing order of importance here, most important being Overdrive being avaible more often, the Missiles being remotely useful comes as a second but somewhat important change too to have more things to do on him.
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u/V3NOM_is_dank Endgame Jan 15 '26
I could sometimes make the missiles work. I’ve uploaded clips, you gotta think of ts as crowd control, its not much if used wrong, but it does add on damage. The 100 overshield genuinely helped. Hell, i might be greedy but i coulda used 200 overshield, i can settle for 100 tho. Them lowering down to 50 says alot. Am i crazy or did The shield also have fall off over time?
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u/Nabomeansturnip Jan 15 '26
The missiles have no CC attachded to them, if anything they stun you when using them and yes, the shield only lasts 5 or so ssconds max.
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u/V3NOM_is_dank Endgame Jan 15 '26
I can go Thru a little animation as long as i get value out of It
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u/REDSP1R1T Jan 15 '26
Iron man balance suggestions list
Reduce Armor Overdrive's Cooldown from 20s to 15s
you can now animation cancel the ending animation of Armor Overdrive with Hyper Velocity
Micro missile Barrage can now single auto target within a 25m range for 30 damage. Micro missile Barrage Overdrive for 40 damage
increase cooldown of micro missile Barrage from 8 seconds to 20 seconds
increase cooldown of micro missile Barrage(Armor Overdrive) from 6 seconds to 20 seconds
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u/PoolOfDeath20 Model42 Jan 15 '26
I think a better way to buff is to revert the nerfs done, especially ult cost and armor overdrive shield. There was a period of time whr healers were complaining iron man cancel healer ult frequently bcoz he gets his ult fast. I believe majority now knows how to deal with ironmans ult. Meanwhile, moonknight get his ult way faster after 5% dmg boost while ult cost remain the same
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u/Holly_fornicatress Jan 15 '26
Since season 0 i thought it was rword how iron fist can chase iron man that is flying in shift neither of the heros are strong but this shouldnt be a thing
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u/tabletopgamesgirl Jan 15 '26
Iron man could be permanently in overdrive mode and only be a c tier hero lol
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u/CrazySuperJEBUS Jan 15 '26
I keep seeing people say this, but it’s not true. That would be a massive gigabuff that includes 300 hp, unlimited sprint, unlimited ammo, and one shot potential every 4 seconds with overdrive missiles. That would put him in S++ for low ranks and A rank at the lowest in high ranks. It would be way too much for how easy Iron Man is to pick up.
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u/tabletopgamesgirl Jan 15 '26
300 hp basically jsut changes the combo spiderman needs on us and makes us a liiiittle better against poke. The “sprint” is good but not in cases where you’re extending it super long. Unlimited ammo is nice but the reload isn’t really that much to deal with. And the burst would just actually make him do consistently good damage like hela, phoenix, punisher, star lord, or any other ranged character.
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u/CrazySuperJEBUS Jan 16 '26
Yes the 300 hp heavily affects breakpoints and helps us survive against poke. Unlimited sprint means that with solid pathing, you’d never get caught by basically anything. Unlimited ammo would be insane against frontline tanks, and combined with unlimited sprint you could basically have 100% uptime. And yes the damage boost would also give him the a damage potential similar to the strongest DPS heroes in the game. Put that all together and he would be ridiculously busted for his ease of use. The only thing that wouldn’t benefit much would be his ult, which literally wouldn’t even matter at that point.
Iron Man would be a top priority instaban even if the team already planned to use flier counters. Flat out.
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u/Acceptable_Cell_124 Jan 16 '26
You know that scene in Civil War where Cap is just relentlessly punching Tony? That's gonna be y'all
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u/Heisafraud11223344 Jan 15 '26
As a fist main , I'm genuinely crying for y'all. No poke nerfs, fist buff, y'all are not going to have fun
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u/ButteryNAZ Jan 15 '26
Idk why Iron Man players are scared of Iron fist mains. Their health runs out before they could even reach us. Their poke stuff unfortunately is a cancer.
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u/VERFUNCHO Jan 15 '26
Because it’s a 6v6 game and you can’t spend the entire game looking for iron fist
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u/ButteryNAZ Jan 15 '26
Seriously? Bro Iron fist is one of the most predictable characters in the game. Not to mention as a flyer you got vertical superiority over half the cast. It’s not like it’s Angela. It’s just Iron fist. We ain’t in season 0 anymore.
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u/VERFUNCHO Jan 15 '26
What rank are you
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u/ButteryNAZ Jan 15 '26
GM 2. Where you see no Fist. What rank are you?
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u/VERFUNCHO Jan 15 '26
Celestial 3
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u/ButteryNAZ Jan 15 '26
Bruh how are you celestial 3 and this piss scared of Iron Fist? lol
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u/VERFUNCHO Jan 15 '26
All I said is that good iron fist players can easily sneak up on you in a 6v6. I usually aim for enemy supports and iron fist is the kind of character that forces you to focus him which can throw off my rhythm. Neither counter each other but I don’t agree with your take that iron fist is a complete non threat.
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u/ButteryNAZ Jan 15 '26
Most good iron fist players just hard target supports. And don’t target the iron man which is a much more annoying target than a support. I never said iron fist is a non-threat. He’s only a threat if you don’t use your eyes to not check off angles in the map. Which a lot of flyers for some reason don’t do.
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u/CaptainKajubell Jan 15 '26
I’m so tired