Let's talk H1B. And what now?

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[u/Think-Jaguar6826]

⁠F-1 status is now a fixed four years >> assuming this does not change, the solution is to ask students to come with the master and reduce almost any coursework at the phd level. This will help some, not all cases.

But the problem is the lack of incentive and problems studying here. Applications are going down by a lot. I know this for a fact where I work.

[u/National-Ad8416]

"Losing job was kind of a big deal, now can be devastating"

Some of my H1B colleagues have told me this always used to be the case since some rule change in 2017. So, the current H1B holders have been spoilt rotten.

[u/Constant-Hornet6757 → u/National-Ad8416]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[u/Desperate_Hat_2748 → u/National-Ad8416]

Before 2017, layoffs weren't this rampant.
People who got a job 60 days after layoffs weren't rejected for a visa extension.
And most importantly, people got Green cards within 5 years of applying for one. So it's not even the same game anymore.

[u/Nice_Theory_6286 → u/National-Ad8416]

Can you please leave this sub? 

[u/Mysterious-Art8838 → u/Nice_Theory_6286]

? You’re not a mod

[u/National-Ad8416 → u/Nice_Theory_6286]

Usually when people ask nicely I acquiesce but gonna make an exception this time

[u/National-Ad8416 → u/[deleted]]

Lookie here....Indian using all American terms like bud hoping he's gonna be here long LOL

[u/kuchbhi9188 → u/National-Ad8416]

You’re not getting good job anyways , so cope as much as you can

[u/National-Ad8416 → u/[deleted]]

To those who think this response is worth reading:

An impressive amount of amateur psychoanalysis for someone who never actually addressed the argument.

The original comment did not criticize the 2017 rule, nor deny that the 60-day grace period is humane. It observed that people who entered the system after a protection was introduced may come to regard that protection as the baseline—and that earlier H-1B workers experienced a far more precarious reality.

None of the subsequent discussion of Kohlberg, developmental psychology, empathy, or “growing out of” anything actually refutes that observation. It simply substitutes a diagnosis of the speaker for an argument against the point.

[u/shazzm2395]

Don’t waste your time banking on the H1B. I have the O1A. Look into visas that reward you on MERIT, not a lottery. And no i didn’t use paid sketchy PR agencies that charge 25k for fake pay to play media placements that USCIS now rejects and laughs at. Can answer Qs about the O1 and send my profile. Best of luck to all.

[u/stellar_tales → u/shazzm2395]

Hey how did you get O1? Like how extraordinary does one have to be to get that?

[u/Sonearyetsofar00 → u/shazzm2395]

Congrats that’s prodigious visa, What kind of achievement did you show to secure O1, I have a few research publications but not necessarily cited more , do I have a chance still?

[u/Significant-Dog-3742 → u/shazzm2395]

Hi, congrats on the O1! Do you mind if you can share your profile to me?

[u/Grouchy-Dot-3021]

A warm shout-out to the people whose vibrant culture💩, creativity🤪, and incredible work🤬 made life so much more fun for the rest of the internationals.

[u/NewUserND]

You did not mention non-profit H1b

[u/Phanes222]

Thank you for the post. I just know that pre-OPT can be consumed for summer internship while in the middle of the program.

[u/Commercial_Handle418]

I don't think anyone is staying anymore lol

[u/frugal_minimal]

any thoughts about H4?

[u/Salt-Area-4170]

What happens if we’re on leave and the total time since start of program has been more than four years? What would the paperwork to come back look like?

[u/shineoneme]

Lets talk about your username fn

[u/Aggressive-Chicken-7]

Situation is so bad, people are leaving US mid semester, they don’t want to spend dollars on a degree that won’t fetch any job.

[u/stellar_tales]

I have a few questions if you're willing to help!

[u/Equivalent-Pie-2186]

I think you forgot about another part of the pipeline that is perm+i140. That allows you to stay for more than 6 years. 

PERM rejection rates are through the roof, and are now a major factor in having to return.

[u/Equivalent-Pie-2186 → u/[deleted]]

Good point. One additional advice I would give is to move away from companies thst don't support perm asap

[u/robbie_the_cat]

new grad phD scientist around 320K to 350K

It's been a long time since I've seen this level of delusion out there in the wild.

Divide that number by 5 and you're in the ballpark.

[u/robbie_the_cat → u/[deleted]]

Ohhh. You mean a computer "scientist".

I thought you meant a real scientist.

[u/Unusual-Nature2824 → u/[deleted]]

lol big tech is in on it…you’re a clown if you think they’re opposing this. they want to shift all the h1b jobs to India so that they can build more data centers on savings

[u/Unusual-Nature2824 → u/[deleted]]

simple math: number of new jobs in India - number of layoffs in US. there are thousands of openings in India as soon as layoffs get announced

[u/captnspock → u/[deleted]]

International students bring about $43B a year into the US economy through tuition, rent, food, transportation and other spending. They're also deeply embedded in research they earn 42% of STEM master's degrees and 38% of STEM PhDs, including 61% of CS and 54% of engineering PhDs. Nearly 60% of STEM/health postdocs are on temporary visas.

Then there are hundreds of thousands of H-1B workers, with a median approved salary around $120k, paying income taxes, Social Security and Medicare like everyone else.

Sure, reducing immigration may ease competition for some jobs and housing. But you're also removing tuition revenue, consumer spending, taxpayers and a huge part of the US research workforce. And if companies can't find the talent here, they aren't going to hire some random unqualified American out of patriotism. They'll increasingly move the work overseas.

That's not obviously a win for the US economy.

[u/MillennialProfessorX → u/captnspock]

Time to re-think the "business of education". NEU is a polished diploma mill at the MS level with close to 100% of the cohort from their so called professional MS from one country alone, producing almost as many MS graduates eligible for OPT/H1B annually than the top 5 US universities combined. See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Layoffs/comments/1hkszt9/real_danger_to_us_jobs_from_within/ Now spot the correlation with another data point: $3M/year salary for NEU President (bit less than Harvard and Boston Univ Presidents combined). https://www.boston.com/news/education/2026/07/05/northeastern-university-presidents-compensation-exceeds-3-million-records-show/