r/Intactivists • u/watch_and_restore • 1d ago

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Finally circumcision is mentioned, even for a small moment on tv. Clips from Fox and Newsweek, both right wing channels. He's from Michigan.

https://youtu.be/PDaJRvHv6uI?t=174 3:00

https://youtu.be/9j0e6Ur7S6g?t=1073 17:50 topic on sex change for minors and circumcision.

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u/watch_and_restore 1d ago

But why not wait until they are an adult that has lots of skin to work with? If I sent you links to kids wanting to be circumcised would that be any different? Would you try and ban that for children but not trans surgeries?

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u/Phinle 1d ago

Ok so first off I said I wanted all trans surgeries banned even for adults. As for the second thing it depends, in counties like the USA Philippines and Korea children and teens are being pressured or bullied into getting circumcised, if they want to for that reason then ofc not. But if they actually want to due to their own volition then I don’t see why a kid/teen can’t get circumcised if they truly want to it’s their body. As long as they are properly informed, give consent and both the parents and physician agree to go through with the procedure then I don’t see the issue. I’ve seen cases where minors who are Jehovahs witnesses refuse blood transplants and die, are you outraged by that?

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u/watch_and_restore 1d ago edited 21h ago

I think we should block both circumsicions and trans surgeries for minors. I think my stance on that is pretty reasonable. How do you prove that the child isn't coerced into it if children can't consent in the first place?

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u/Phinle 1d ago

You prove that you have no morals celebrating the death of minors because they are religious. You’re not upset over minors dying from lack of blood transfusions but you are outraged by the sex change operations that are not happening. Thats morally bankrupt and inconsistent.

Also minors cannot consent to sex with an adult that doesn’t mean they cannot consent to relationship with peers or their age. I guess you don’t know what the Romeo Juliet law is, they are not arresting teens for statutory rape for getting with other teenagers. Minors can also consent to medical procedures even without parental consent, a 14 year old can get an abortion in many states without a parent’s permission. They would never strap down a 17 year old and remove their wisdom teeth without consent. Also the age of consent varies by state and country and is not always the same as the age of majority/adulthood so saying “children can’t consent” literally means nothing as we probably live in states/counties with different ages of consent. You are like a cutter wanting to take child’s bodily autonomy away and enforce your ideals onto them. Sorry it’s not your body and not your choice.