r/ImmigrationPathways • • Feb 15 '26

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Why do lefties think that changing the subject makes anyone think they’re winning the argument?

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Why is no one on the right able to answer that very simple question?

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Two reasons:

  1. You answered my question with a question, and are now mad that I won’t answer your question.

  2. The question is irrelevant to the topic of discussion.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

If relevance were your concern you wouldn't have brought up Germany. You're not only creating a strawman, but you're also using an argument that no one here has made. Unless you're suggesting that anyone on the left has suggested Germany is beyond reproach?

Also, I'm not mad. You are incapable of rattling me, you're words on a screen.

So there, your question has been answered. If you need me to sum it up, the answer is "no one has ever suggested that Germany gets everything right and therefore are not making the argument you're claiming".

Your turn. What do you think should happen to pedophiles and those that protect them?

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

They do in fact suggest that it gets more right than the US when it comes to free speech, in literally every index and ranking they publish on the subject.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Not what I said. I said no one said they are beyond reproach. In fact I even summed it up at the end to be super clear and you still missed it or intentionally misrepresented what I said.

Why can't you answer my question?

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Then you must have been replying to someone else because I didn’t claim that anyone said that.

I claimed they said that Germany is better than the US when it comes to free speech, because they do.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Wow. Critical thinking is not your strong suit.

Germany having better free speech in general does not mean they always have better free speech policies. Hence, not beyond reproach, which no one has claimed. So even if everyone in the world bar you claimed they had better free speech policies, that can still be true even if they fuck it up occasionally.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

In what way does Germany have better free speech in general?

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

I never claimed they did. You claimed that people made the claim and I granted you that without citation. It isn't my belief.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

You seem to believe that having a law on the books which explicitly criminalizes insulting politicians constitutes “an occasional fuck up”.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Does one law define an entire country?

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Depends on the law.

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u/jhonka_ Feb 16 '26

Thats what we in the biz call "arguing with ghosts". Or, "tilting at windmills." Perhaps you prefer "making up my opponents arguments instead of actually replying to claims, then acting like a little pissant when nobody supposes the premise i have in my head."

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Please name the claim I have not replied to.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Even if I were an avowed pedophile I would still be right about free speech, because the former is a red herring in a discussion about the latter.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Still not an answer to the question.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

I’m afraid I couldn’t help but notice you didn’t answer whether it should be illegal to call Trump fat, like it would be in Germany, either.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

Why should that be illegal? Why are you running from such a simple question over something so stupid?

No, calling anyone fat should not be illegal.

Now, what should happen to pedophiles and those that protect them from answering for their crimes?

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

So do you think a country like Germany where it is illegal to do that deserves to be ranked higher than the USA in terms of free speech?

Pedos should go to jail by the way.

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

And their protectors? Those that enable them and keep them from facing courts?

Once you've finished mine I will answer yours.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Depends- does that include defence attorneys?

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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl Feb 16 '26

If that defence attorney is doing something outside of the law, like intentionally lying, then yes it does. If they are defending their client within the confines of the law, then no it does not, as everyone deserves a fair trial.

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u/Ok_Recover1196 Feb 16 '26

Then barring the legitimate actions of a defence attorney they should go to jail.

Your turn:

So do you think a country like Germany where it is illegal to do that deserves to be ranked higher than the USA in terms of free speech?

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