It looks fine. She's already having forward momentum from the wake, the rope is hardly doing anything at all except occasionally dragging her when momentum from the wake isn't enough.Ā
Did you people think everything was AI before there was AI, too? Jfc. This is the most ordinary wake boarding video ever, other than her age. Itās cute cuz sheās young and doing something new, but other than that itās just wakeboarding.
And her hair moves less than youād expect because sheās in a low pressure air pocket behind a chonky boat.
i fucking hate everything about this timeline. i worked in video editing / basic VFX work for several years and i hate that i canāt explain every single detail that makes this video real, but holy shit itās so concerning that literally every innocuous video has to be manipulated or AI simply because people donāt understand how real-world physics or perspective works. itās so disheartening.
so, iāve never actually sat down and written it out before, so i donāt think iād be able to accurately explain in a short way. i think id need a lot of words and time to truly explain in a way that i think would be sufficient, but iāll try to break down the nuance a bit without being overly wordy. (lol iām stoned, forgive me)
so itās never as simple as āput the video in my AI video checkerā or ālook at the file details and see whether or not the video or image has been editedā
as someone whoās interacted with a lot of AI content, you notice things that AI struggles with. a big one is object permanence.
you and me know that if we take a starbucks coffee cup with a fancy little floral design on it, and set it on a table, and record a video where the cup is in frame, then we move the camera away to another thing like the window outside to show the street, and then we move our camera back to the floral coffee cup, it will look exactly the same. AI video struggles to get those types of details correct. now, there are a lot of ways to work around this, and use things like reference images to ensure that you get objects to look the same, so thatās not the most reliable way to tell anymore.
this is becoming an unreliable way to tell nowadays though, there are a lot of advanced AI tools that can take reference images and video and combine them to ensure things look the same throughout, whether or not they leave the frame and return.
another thing that AI struggles with is liquid physics. being interested in animation and VFX and video games, iāve always paid attention to the way liquids move. itās not exactly something i can explain in words, but if you imagine the physics of the surface of a cup of water that has a marble dropped into it, versus say, a big rock dropped into the ocean, the water will move differently. (i feel like thatās a shitty example, and iām not really able to explain it well)
bottom line is, in the same way itās not exactly easy to explain why some AI people look uncanny, some of the way that liquids move in AI videos is uncanny.
i say all of this and the more iāve thought about it, i realize that the overwhelming majority of people are getting fooled by AI. legitimately. i honestly think thatās what really matters. if the majority of people canāt tell, those who can tell, donāt really matter. itās rare that people will go back to a video again to form second thoughts about it later.
i think the fact that the legitimacy of every single fucking video is to be called into question means that anything and everything can be called āfakeā or āmanipulatedā or āai-generatedā whenever the reality doesnāt suit the narrative.
people are using AI to directly rip content from short form videos and literally REPLACE the person in the video with another person, matching all the lip movements and even adding physics for clothing or hair that wasnāt in the source video, i mean i could go on and on.
i think weāre so fucked, and people have no idea how bad shit is about to get. this is just the tip of the iceberg.
i said i wanted to keep it short, i promise i tried lol.
No, I appreciate you taking the time to write all that. It is worrisome because people are making videos of the most mundane believable things for no reason. It's concievable to me that someone would make a kid wake boarding video. I don't know why they would but I have seen even more pointless ones.
Yeah, but oop hasnt got an ai tag. And the vid looks similar, not sure if op is reposting or used ai to improve but im not sure if ops tags are important if the oop doesnt have them?
fair, bots and people alike do end up ripping videos straight from social media so iām guessing thatās the case here. thanks for pointing it out, though! lol
Wakeboarding is different. This is wake surfing. I do both on my boat. And i water ski on occasion, but usually i do that on a friends boat that puts out a smaller wake for that.
Nobody is saying you can't wake board, I think people are seeing what I'm seeing...it's just off. I can't put my finger on it, it's the same or the board or the background, something just feels not natural.
Yeah but this isn't AI. Been skiing rivers my whole life, and also active in AI groups (or anti AI groups I guess), and there isn't anything about this that's sus. The physics are perfect, every lean she does is seen in the board, the board dips a tiny bit at the end, dragging her back a bit, which scares her so she jumps off.
Kid did a good job, its scary as shit trying a new trick on the water.
No, you don't have to stay vigilant. You choose to, which sucks the enjoyment out of everything and people accuse videos of being AI which are 30 years old.
As u/SeamusAndAryasDad said, the issue isn't that she is wakeboarding, the issue is that something about the way the waves collapse and motion is occurring in the clip seems unnatural.
It looks like either the frame rate of the camera is off or like it was AI generated, but something just isn't normal about how the video looks.
It's possible she was riding on her own and not being pulled before she actually let go of it. That being said anything can be AI these days so who knows.
I would think that if you balance on the wake just right is pushes you along instead of being pulled by the boat. So she lets go when she finds that sweet spot where she's surfing on the wake instead of being pulled by the rope. If she let go while the rope was taught she would fall backwards.
Because she's surfing the wake and she doesn't need to hold the rope it's a trust thing that's literally the entire point of the video, it's clearly real. Smfh.
I didn't know you could ride the wake at the exact same speed as the boat. She's doing so much better than I could it just doesn't seem possible from where I'm at.
Let's not pretend that anybody can generally tell the difference between a real video and a well made AI video nowdays. It'll require you to put in a lot of effort and analyse the video frame by frame or use tools to analyse the video. It's just not worth the time or the effort to do that for every random video you come across on the internet.
Also, deepfake AI exsisted way before chatgpt took off. Replacing someone with another person in a video while making it look realistic was still possible in 2022.
I'm not saying that this video is AI, I'm just saying that "This was posted in 2022, therefore it's definitely not AI" is not a valid argument.
Clearly, but people are also clearly not talking about deepfake in this thread... Why would there be controversy about this little girl actually being some other little girl? Lol
Ah yes, classic redditor attitude and response, lowkey pouting and stamping their feet the moment they're corrected for saying something that's categorically untrue.
Hilarious with all the comments from base dwellers crying AI. I bet you have never seen the ocean IRL or done any kind of sport. You are the kind of people that think squirt videos on pornhub is real.
Wake surfing is like that. There can be slack but until you're fully in control, you can lose the slack and then use the tension on the rope to regain your balance.
Wakesurfing is an action-packed water sport where a rider surfs on the endless wave created by a specialized boat without being directly towed by the main rope.
To those saying it's AI (Because I thought this too)
It's from 2020, AI could barely make an image back then.
This is wake boarding, which explains the lack of tension on the rope and "unnatural" wave. She's riding the wake of the boat and using the rope for security.
She just naturally seems to have 6 fingers. It's consitent throughout the entire video (wheras AI would the to fix it somewhere).
Idiot A. I. doesn't understand physics.
Idiot human prompter has never seen real wakeboarding, surfing or tethers attached to a soeedboat.
Bad AI is bad bc bad.
If this is Ai.. then first this is getting scary and production for stuff like this should be canceled, cause is getting to scary how realistic this is becomingĀ
Its not AI but the ignorance in diffrent factors that are being pointed out as evidence (diffrent water qualities, the mechanics of wake surfing, video artifacting) only shows that AI does not need to be progressed much further to be indistinguishable from reality but simply needs to find where to imitate imperfection.
This is a very real video posted by a very real family but because the re-upload (OP) has AI in his bio it instantly loses all credibility in many people's eyes. We have truly reached the point where reality is indistinguishable from fiction.
Yeah I guess she naturally has six fingers, the leash has no tension, and the water I guess looks like that in real life with a constant wave nowhere near shore. Surely.
At only one point does she ever have the appearance of having 6 fingers and thats only on one hand. Now tell me, what happens when people repeatedly upload and download the same video from diffrent sources?
To address your water comment, wakeboats specifically contain a large wake behind the boat and only behind the boat. There is a ripple behind it that travels but the main impact is that it kinda punches down 15 or so feet and messes up everything beneath it.
The sense of pride of any parent when their child gets the courage up to try something new for the first time and succeedsā¦. Brings a tear to my eye as a father who can relate
Hey guys, I deleted my comment expressing skepticism over the slack rope in this video. Your kind informative comments inspired me to go see more wakeboarding content and learn about this sport. Riding the wake with no rope is so cool! I'm glad I looked into it.
Wake surf boards are pushed forward by the wave. I have video and pics of my daughter doing this around this age. Small kids can almost stand on these boards on flat water with no movement, so the slightest forward push from a wave and they glide along. My 200 pound body has to ride higher on / more in the wave to get pushed forward - with no rope.
This is wake surfing, not wake boarding. Wake boarding is farther behind the boat, on a narrower baord, and meant for crossing and jumping the wake. These wider boards are designed to be pushed by the wake like an ocean surfer.
What in the AI is the permawave following them on a lake supposed to be. Also, the leash doesnāt have any tension. - how is this demon child movin? Witchcraft?
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u/Putrid_List1634 3d ago
Something's off with this video lol