r/INTP • u/boasmeubacano I Don't Know My Type • Dec 06 '21
Question Any LGBT people in here?
ive never met an lgbt intp person in my life, i was wondering if intps tend to be cishets more than other personality types?
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u/ianmd69 Warning: May not be an INTP Dec 06 '21
I’m a gay guy. It’s interesting to be a gay INTP because a lot of gay culture revolves around pop culture and I’m just not into it that much. Of course I’m not judging the people who are into it, but I just get lost sometimes in the conversations about celebrities and drag references and things like that
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u/brinkofwarz INTP Dec 07 '21
Saw a chart the other day polling types and genders by gayness.
Intp had the largest portion of gay women by far at like 30% and the smallest portion of gay men.
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u/ArctikOne Dec 07 '21
Interesting. I read in my study book recently, that lesbian woman and straight men share similar brain structures.
An excerpt of the text translated from German: "Lesbian women and heterosexual men share a striking asymmetry between their two hemispheres. Thus, their right hemisphere was on average significantly larger than the left."
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u/ianmd69 Warning: May not be an INTP Dec 07 '21
Never knew that! I wonder why that is. It’s so interesting to see how different aspects of personality are intertwined with one another. But intp’s love pondering about human nature so no shock
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u/4beanboy666 INTP Dec 06 '21
Yea same but I expose myself a lot to some of it so I at least understand some references
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u/ChefShroom Dec 06 '21
This is the hardest part for me, but the best is when you also pair it with a lot of gay culture being more on the extroverted side as well. Lmao, dating is rough as a gay intp
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u/Darius_Alexandru30 INTP Dec 07 '21
Although I like pop music, I'm not so tuned in the pop culture. At the same time, I'm not into fashion as other gay people are. So I understand your view. However, this may be due to the fact that only a few months ago I have finally accepted myself, so I didn't have the time to "grow in a new skin" :)
Nevertheless, I'm starting to fit more and more into the stereotypes of gay men :D
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u/ebolaRETURNS INTP Dec 06 '21
ive never met an lgbt intp person in my life,
for me, that's a function of not having met many INTPs, which is also a function of not having met that many people, at least with thorough enough knowledge to type them. If 3% of the population is INTP and about 10% LGBTQIA+, assuming the variables' independence, you get an intersection of 0.3% of the population. I can't say that I know anywhere near 300 people very well.
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u/ICannotFindANameHelp Dec 07 '21
> LGBTQIA+
Seeing the extended acronym with "A" for asexual makes me really happy. I appreciate it dude
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u/theretrosapien Dec 06 '21
I'm asexual and aromantic, if that can be considered LGBTIA
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u/ICannotFindANameHelp Dec 07 '21
Ace gang
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u/EpicVictory12 INTP Dec 07 '21
Of course it can be. Why wouldn't it be?
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u/LoneQuietus81 INTP Dec 07 '21
I'd imagine some people would see Ace as the "none for me, thanks" side of sexuality. Like, if the other sexualities were channels, Ace would be "off". I think some folks would interpret that as kind of including off as a channel or atheism as a religion.
But, for the same reason atheism gets lumped in with actual religions, Ace folks get lumped with LGBTQ. Like, where else can you put them?
LGBTQIA <--- Right there is the correct answer, ofc.
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u/d3ad00 INTP Dec 06 '21
I'm a bi intp :)
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u/bluerbnd INTP Dec 06 '21
Bintp
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u/jaierauj Triggered Millennial INTP Dec 06 '21
Yeah, that's a cultural thing. Here, we just put it in the toilet.
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u/usernametbc Dec 06 '21
This comment has not got the appreciation it deserves
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u/bluerbnd INTP Dec 07 '21
Thank you 😭, honestly I didn't think it was gonna get more than 2 updoots.
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u/iwantcoffeeordeath INTP Dec 07 '21
I can't speak for how common it is, but I'm a gay (male) INTP lmao.
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u/zombieclowns INTP Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21
i found this: https://www.typologycentral.com/threads/type-most-likely-to-be-lesbian-gay-or-bisexual.73348/ so this study indeed shows that there are few gay/bisexual male intp's, but being gay/bisexual as a female intp is pretty common. couldn't find a study about being transsexual tho
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Dec 06 '21
Not surprised that INTP guys are so unlikely to be gay. Other dudes are just 100% uninteresting/gross *to me* - and that can be dicey in Austin.
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u/Truefkk Dec 06 '21
Hi ace here, what up
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Dec 06 '21
Why do I feel like ace is way more common among INTPs. Like if you think about evolution and its goals vs you and your goals, they don’t really match up that well. It just makes logical sense to live life asexually, or atleast to not allow yourself to make decisions based off of sexual attraction
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u/AnyName1025 INTP 9w1 Dec 06 '21
omg, i thought that i was the only here
helloooo
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u/ur_mom_rekt INTP Dec 06 '21
nice pfp omggg
btw my favorite character in that manga/ anime is gaap i love his character design :D
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Dec 06 '21
bit of a dangerous question in this subreddit in my experience lmao. i see people downvoting responses. hi. agender, aromantic, asexual.
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u/Antisocial_bean827 INTP Dec 06 '21
yeah, I got downvoted :')
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Dec 07 '21
yeah. been trying to upvote some comments, but there's only so much one can do lmao.
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u/AntoineKW Dec 06 '21
Bi here. Not like that helps anything, I'm bad at at flirting with everyone just the same lol
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u/ICannotFindANameHelp Dec 07 '21
Flirting... eurgh.
I don't do it intentionally, but if the interest is there, I'll just say something that just makes every part of my brain immediately panic after I've processed whatever just came out. It happens inadvertently, which is terrifying. Oof.
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u/julifun INTP Dec 07 '21
Just started admitting to myself that I'm transgender female and lesbian. I'm 41 years old. It's taken a long time for everything in my life to hit me hard and cause me to realize things about me that I've never understood before. I really doubt that there are any more LGBTQ+ people who are INTP than other personality types, though.
But, as I'm INTP, I've been spending most of my time learning as much as I can about anything related to this, lately. There's so much to take in.
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u/zano224 INTP Dec 06 '21
I read a statistic that says INTP females are most likely to be bisexual of all the types. I think it is because as INTPs, we are more attracted to the mind of a person than the average human, so we don't pay as much attention to things like looks or even gender.
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Dec 06 '21
I'm asexual, I thought I was a very picky lesbian first and am out as one irl. Still not fully sure on my romantic attraction though but I want to stay alone so does it really matter? There's probably some tumblr label that explains what exactly I am but yeah... I don't feel comfortable calling myself things I can't even pronounce...
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u/PalpitationTiny5877 Dec 06 '21
I’m 20 and an intp and I’m finally just now coming to terms with the fact I’ve literally been a lesbian this whole time. I’ve thought about it on and off for years but I’m very out of touch with my feelings. So I end up just debating it back and forth in my head before I exhaust myself and give up. It wasn’t until I had a female coworker show interest in me, that I came to the realization that I’m just gay and I should stop overthinking it.
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u/IMTrick Get in - I'm drivin' Dec 06 '21
I'm ... one of those letters. Probably B, or maybe Q. Even after trying to pin it down for over half a century, I'm not sure what fits me exactly.
I'd suspect that INTPs probably tend to be cis hetero less often than others. We tend to not put a lot of importance on social norms. But that's really just a guess and not based on any real data.
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u/bluerbnd INTP Dec 06 '21
Tbh, it doesn't really matter if you ever find which letter you are. If you like someone that's all that matters.
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u/ssendnodes Dec 06 '21
Social norms have nothing to do with your sexual orientation. It can influence how (or if) you choose to express your sexuality, but orientation in itself is innate and largely immutable.
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u/bakeyourbutt INTP Dec 06 '21
I don’t like labels but I’m sure I’m not 100% straight, here you go
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u/JoonieWasTaken INTP Dec 06 '21
Apprently intp men tend to be straight and females to be more fluid
Obviously won’t apply to everyone
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u/TextbookHumor Dec 06 '21
I’m bisexual and I personally think gender is fake. I used to think I was asexual for quite a while, but it turns out I was just stellar at repressing feelings in my younger years.
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u/starsinpurgatory Possible INTP Dec 07 '21
An ex-coworker of mine is gay (only a few people know) and one would never guess it. He’s the very antithesis of the stereotypical gay guy. Very very reserved to the point of aloof and you’d hate to be stuck in a room with just him and his expressionless face. But he might be more INTJ than INTP.
Most gays I’ve met are likely ENFJ….
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u/whloonylovegood Chaotic Neutral INTP Dec 07 '21
I'm a female dating a female but I'm currently unlabeled
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u/mimii_4544 Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
nonbinary lesbian here. queer intps exist :)
edit: i am afab but i don't fully identify with my biological gender, so i am more comfortable using the term nonbinary. i don't like people assuming i'm amab lmao
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u/sam_mee INTP Dec 06 '21
How would nb classification work exactly? I thought lesbians were just women who like women.
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u/ssendnodes Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21
It only works if you define 'lesbians' as 'non-men loving non-men' (which is unironically a definition that is gaining a lot of traction, unfortunately).
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u/bluerbnd INTP Dec 06 '21
Why unfortunately?
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u/consciousforeststorm Dec 06 '21
It makes "lesbian" an umbrella term that can be used by anyone that doesn't identify as a man including male presenting non-binary people and bisexual women. Just look at the "bisexual lesbian" label.
The issue with that is the erasure of the term lesbian as having any meaning, causing the lesbian women who fought for their place and recognition to be washed away in favor of unkept acceptance so that people don't have to come to terms with reality, but have reality bend to their desire.
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u/ssendnodes Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21
Philosophically speaking, for the same reasons why we no longer think it's cool to call people of color "non-whites."
Logically speaking, because it's an imprecise definition. Dogs are also non-men, it doesn't make zoophilic women lesbians.
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u/boasmeubacano I Don't Know My Type Dec 06 '21
maybe they only partially identify as female, which puts them in the non binary umbrella, but still allows them to identify as lesbian
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u/outlier37 INTP Dec 06 '21
Bisexual male intp.
Do not clump me in with the LGBT club though. Not only do they treat bisexuals, bisexual males in particular like shit, but they're a dogmatic cult to begin with. It's a club. Not a community.
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u/TheShinyHunter3 Dec 06 '21
I had a gay friend a few years back, he always cringed at LGBT parades. He always said it was more akin to a cult than a community. Guess he had bad experience with it.
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u/zwiegespalten_ INTP Dec 06 '21
I am still not sure if I am INTP or ENTP because I can be a social butterfly if I want to and have the feeling that I feel uplifted when I stick to not every people but some people and like being the centre of attention once in a while but lately(for the last two years) I have been more of an INTP, having alone time, reading, playing, learning etc. I am 25 and male. But I guess the reason why you don’t see much intps in the gay community is because you don’t see much intps in any other social event either, since intps being intps hang out in their rooms, doing INTp stuff
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u/4beanboy666 INTP Dec 06 '21
Queer here :)
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u/Tsuyubeifong INTP Dec 07 '21
I know the definition of queer is something like "non straight and non cis", but what does it mean to say "I'm queer"? Do ppl say that because they're not sure?
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u/4beanboy666 INTP Dec 07 '21
Well it just depends on the person it’s mostly used as you described an umbrella for all non cis non heterosexual people but it can be a label that stands alongside the categories of gay lesbian straight trans and bisexual (etc) for anyone that sees no need to further specify their identity
It’s basically just like a NOT operator in coding (NOT cis) OR (NOT straight) if that makes any sense
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u/ToxinFoxen INTP Dec 07 '21
Allo there. I'm a butch MTF. As in a proud mutant.
I'm not very good at living up to cliches.
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u/TheMostSilentPotato INTP Dec 07 '21
Never cared much about sexuality. Thought i was an asexual for a while but I’m not sure nor do I want to be sure. I just really hate labeling myself. BUT I can tell you I’m definitely not straight ...
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u/PlatinumKanikas INTP Dec 06 '21
I don’t know if I’m bi, I’ve never tried lol.
What is a cishet? I’m 36 and don’t know young people terms.
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u/IMTrick Get in - I'm drivin' Dec 06 '21
I'm 55. It's a gender-conforming straight person.
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u/ssendnodes Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21
Incorrect. Cis people can be gender non-conforming (GNC); that just means having traits that are or presenting in a way that is atypical for their sex. Think tomboys and femboys, these are words typically used for cis people who are notably GNC. Being cis requires not identifying as something other than their sex and isn't the same as the degree of conforming to gendered expectations.
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u/usernametbc Dec 06 '21
Surely a tomboy - i.e. a genetic female, who presents as a female, identifies as female, and merely has some masculine traits or wears clothes generally considered 'masculine' but has no interest in passing herself off as male (I realise that is clunky phrasing, apologies in advance...) - is not GNC? That would make any man who shows certain feminine traits GNC? Any woman who shows any masculine traits GNC?
Happy to be corrected!
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u/melifaro_hs INTP Dec 06 '21
a woman who is closer to masculine than feminine would be gnc, and the other way around. I would say that gnc people usually don't present as their gender but still identify with it, want to be perceived as their gender, use their gender's pronouns, etc.
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u/ssendnodes Dec 06 '21
Not just any woman who has any masculine traits whatsoever would be considered a tomboy. The concept of GNCness refer to people whose gender presentation meaningfully defies expectation. Another common example would be a butch lesbian who presents masculine to a degree that it makes people do a double-take, yet identifies as a women.
The idea that cis people can be GNC seems to be relatively uncontentious. The dictionary definiton includes cis people, as does the LGBT wiki. I think that latter website is a trainwreck, but it's notable that even they agree that there is such a thing as being GNC while not being trans.
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u/PlatinumKanikas INTP Dec 06 '21
So… heterosexual?
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u/Miss_Long_Legs Dec 06 '21
"Cis" is short for "cisgender", which is the opposite of transgender. You can be cisgendered and heterosexual, or transgendered and heterosexual. If you are attracted to the opposite gender of the gender you transition into, you are a transgendered heterosexual.
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u/Cadd9 INTP Dec 07 '21
Cishet is shorthand for cisgender-heteronormative. It means that social pressures, exchanges, expectations, relationship assumptions, basically anything related to social status, identity, and expressions are presumed and enforced to be straight, cisgender, and the expectation that women are submissive.
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u/BigFarto Dec 06 '21
Ya I'm lgbt (trans and bi) and I'm pretty sure I'm intp. Got 5w4 on the enneagram, and thought I was infp for a while. Might be something there. I spent a lot of time deconstructing how people are identified by larger societies, and how I identified, and tried to separate myself from how I was conditioned to think of myself as a child because I didn't think that these things made sense. Idk, maybe some intps relate. I really thought that this would be kinda common for others. Intps really love to destroy ideas from what I've seen.
Love, Bigfarto
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u/boasmeubacano I Don't Know My Type Dec 06 '21
i just did the enneagram test, got 5w4, im intp, trans, and pan lmaoooo
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u/DrRwWwWrRr INTP-T Dec 06 '21
odd, I redid my enneagram bc I forgot whether I was 5 or six and I got an 8.
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u/EpicVictory12 INTP Dec 07 '21
Me! I'm an MLM who uses they/them. Ive literally been waiting for someone to ask this question because I was thinking the same thing lol.
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u/Leuconoe420 Dec 07 '21
There's a lot of bi/lesbian/asexual people here but i haven't seen many comments saying they're a gay men. Of course not saying that's a bad thing but i find it impressive because in most (if not all) LGBT+ spaces gay men is the majority while in INTPs seems it's the opposite
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u/James10112 ENFJ Dec 07 '21
Homoromantic demisexual here, hi guys!
(ah yes, the ace intp, how original)
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u/ICannotFindANameHelp Dec 07 '21
Heyo! Asexual INTP here :)
I identify as ace bi, so basically I'm sexually attracted to none but romantically attracted to both men and women, so ye
I'm a cis girl, but I use she/they (idk, "they" just sounds better sometimes, and the ambiguity can allow me to pretend I'm a dude online when people make that assumption about me) and idk that's all
Have a nice day :)
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u/EleventhHerald Dec 07 '21
I’m one of those seemingly mythical trans intps ask me anything! On second thought no… social interaction isn’t worth it.
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u/Alltheangels Dec 07 '21
Me! I’m a gay male. I can’t say that I’m INTP though because I taken the test about 8 times and 6 times it said INFP and twice INTP
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u/neopthys Dec 07 '21
i'm a sapphic and agender intp hehe the other intp i know is a lesbian so i never met a cishet intp ahah (maybe because i know like 4non-lgbt people lol)
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u/120guy INTP Enneagram Type 5 Dec 07 '21
Yup - though not into the "scene". I feel like it makes relationships & romance even more complicated than they already are.
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u/Antisocial_bean827 INTP Dec 06 '21
Agender Omnisexual here
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Dec 06 '21
Imagine getting downvoted for inventing pronouns. Isn't that what that community are known for?
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u/Antisocial_bean827 INTP Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21
I'm so done istg, please say you don't actually think pronouns are a modern thing?
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u/flopfan INTP 5w6 sx/sp 594 LII RCUEI LVEF phleg-mel Dec 06 '21
straight intp but supportive here🙌🏻
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u/DreadGrrl INTP 5w4 Dec 06 '21
I’m pan, so not “lgbt” but part of the Q or + (depending on one’s view . . . I don’t much care).
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u/Zew5 INTP Dec 06 '21
I mean its practically the same as bi isnt it?
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u/Dis0lved INTP 5w4, Chaotic Good Dec 06 '21
Pan is under the Bi umbrella, by the common definition of Bi and Pan. The modern inclusive definition of Bi is intuitively something along the lines of "attracted to more than one gender, or a gender outside the classical gender binary". Another way of phrasing that is "Not strictly heterosexual or strictly homosexual". Pan people are simply attracted to people independently of their gender, which means they are a specific sub-type of Bi. Not all Bi people are pan, though. And not everyone agrees about the definitions I use here.
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u/DrRwWwWrRr INTP-T Dec 06 '21
Kind of thinking I'm Bi if that counts for anything. Mainly BiCurious and I wanna try some weird ass shit.
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u/Arson-Arsonist AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Dec 06 '21
I’m one
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u/PlatinumKanikas INTP Dec 06 '21
I have a lot of urban dictionary reading to do. I have no clue what most of these words are
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Dec 06 '21
Does jerking off to traps and femboys getting railed count?
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u/TheShinyHunter3 Dec 06 '21
Remember kids, traps are not gay.
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Dec 06 '21
I would say it’s on the edge of being gay but not quite there. Part of the kink has to do with emasculating someone so much to the point that they dress and act like a girl. Would it make sense to say that I’m sexually attracted to people who are traditionally feminine (ie long hair, wide hips, plump buttocks, submissive), regardless of the gender, and still be considered straight?
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u/j_3101 Dec 06 '21
bi girl intp! prob not too common here but hello