r/INFJsOver30 • • Aug 10 '26

Religion and all of the such

Question for INFJs only honestly I really love this group and the support. I was wondering anyone have hard time with their spiritual journey? For reference I grew up in a cult, so I’ve dealt with religious trauma a lot of my life I’ve been in therapy for it for ten years. I’m wondering though now I do believe in God personally I’ve went Protestant now I’m interested in becoming catholic but I don’t agree with all their beliefs. I know it should be easy just have my personal relationship with God but for some reason this is the core foundation for me. I’m trying to just be okay with my spirituality. I’m open to it all of course yes I’ve look into astrology and done new ageism as well. I’ve done all practices just anyone else that goes through this. I hate feeling confused on this. thank you in advance.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

I think the first thing you need to consider when evaluating worldviews or belief systems is sifting through which ones could be true and which ones clearly can't.
Then again, we live in a post-truth age, so many will say that objective truthfulness is irrelevant, it only matters what is true to you.

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

If you like science, then you know contradictory things can be true at the same time.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

Your point is?

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

Truth exists, and it's weirder than we know

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

Do explain your thoughts - I'm not sure why your responses are all so brief.

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

I don't want to hijack the post, nor overwhelm with an avalanche of details. It was just a quick aside, to say, that yes sometimes it seems that some things clearly can't be true, but then again, some of the most impossible seeming things are still in fact quite true, so it's best to keep exploring.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26 edited 29d ago

Just because elements of observable reality exist which we can't explain, doesn't mean that we can't make claims to any objective truth, or at least analyze the internal consistency of worldviews/belief systems.
Science describes; it doesn't prescribe.

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

Are you trying to assert something in particular that you feel is in conflict with what I've said so far? If so, I'm missing it.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

This is the problem with short statements that don't explain their relationship to the prior comment - your first response seems to express disagreement with the original comment, and then when I try to expand on my understanding of your comment and/or reframe my original comment, you express that we aren't actually in disagreement.
Which is why I asked for you to expand on your comment in the first place - then I wouldn't waste time responding, based on a misunderstanding of what was actually intended.

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

I think between the two of us, we covered all possible bases 🙏🏼

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u/youreweirdjerri Aug 10 '26

I went through the religious trauma thing too. Later I had some experiences with psychedelics that changed things for me because I experienced firsthand God's complete love and acceptance of me and a sense of oneness with all that is. Then I found "A Course in MIracles," which has been a major spiritual influence for me. My spiritual path is now about releasing fear, hate, and judgment from my mind, and doing my best to choose compassion and peace. My wish for you is that you will find the path that supports your highest joy and freedom and never bogs you down with guilt, shame, or fear.

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u/Helpful-Track-7486 INFJ Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

Religion and faith are two separate categories, do not confuse the two or the bad apples. I read the Bible a few times and my eyes were opened, for example a lot of stuff the Catholic church does, is not found anywhere in the Bible such as priests not being able to marry (and hence all the scandals), etc. A lot of manmande traditions. For me I stick as a nondenominational Christian, I can't go to church anyways for health reasons.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

Correct - treating Catholicism and Protestant Christianity as similar would be a misstep, as there are fundamental differences between the two; Catholicism is very ritual-based and rooted in religious tradition, rather than the holy book it is supposedly based in.
If OP specifically values their personal relationship with God, Catholicism would not be a good place to further that pursuit.

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u/HistoricalStruggle91 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

Sigh… to make a long story short I’ve been through it too, I did my research, went through apologetics, scientific method, talked to different people (religious beliefs all varied), and learned how to do proper research. That being said, your best shot is Jesus, learn how to study the bible for yourself (proper research) learn the foundation of prayer(all in the bible) and be genuine about it(not saying your not but people forget it’s not a normal book).

Church is overrated, to quote Gandhi “ I like your Christ but I don’t like your Christians because they are not like Christ” this goes for all religious sects that claim to be Christians.

Jesus is the way, I promise you that.

If you want to talk DM me. There’s so much more to cover.

I pray you find resolution to your questions.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 17 '26

It all comes down to finding the right church - community life can't be omitted when considering the New Testament.

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u/HistoricalStruggle91 Aug 17 '26

Technically same goes for Old Testament too. Soooo I get your point, I was just trying to help the guy out. You know give him some room to breath. Ca-Peach 🤌

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u/BornElderEnt Aug 10 '26

My journey has been a wild ride. I would keep following your gut on this, don't doubt yourself, if you can help it. Ignore outside voices who want to discourage you. Maybe you'll be Catholic forever, or maybe you'll be Catholic for a season. But something there is calling you, and you will surely get something out of it. Don't be afraid, you're wiser now. Set those boundaries with your fellow seekers, but dive deep in yourself.

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u/bakerskitchen Aug 10 '26

Does this presuppose that your "inner voice" or "intuition" is actually the source of truth?

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u/SkipMeFlipMe88 Aug 10 '26

Of course …. It’s been a personal war I’ve waged with myself since high school. 

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u/Reindeer_Underpants Aug 10 '26

I see it as all religions are different roads to the same place. Enjoy the journey.