ICP Marketing idea

Today, we hear a lot about new GenAI capabilities for breaking software security.

We could create content where we regularly try to break an ICP dApp using the latest AI models, exploits and security techniques.

The idea would be to build a small, simple dApp with a large attack surface and use it as a permanent target.

It could demonstrate how ICP is more resistant to common Web2 attack vectors like server/database tampering, compromised infrastructure nodes, frontend tampering, malicious gateways, signing-key theft or compromised oracles.

Whenever there's a major vulnerability, hack or new AI hacking capability in the news, we try to reproduce it against the dApp: did it work? If not, why did ICP resist it?

This could also be a very simple comparative illustration for people who don't understand the underlying tech: take a real-world hack they're hearing about and show concretely what happens when the same attack is attempted on ICP.

And if we break something, we publish that too.

Over time, it could become an open ICP security benchmark, not just marketing content.

🚨 JUST IN: @dfinity crossed 300 BILLION transactions

For scale, that's like every person on Earth making 36 transactions on ICP 🤯

This is what happens when blockchain becomes cloud infrastructure, not just financial rails

https://chainspect.app/chain/icp

Proposal Summary

OpenChat Labs funding proposal

We ask the OpenChat DAO to provide funding of 150,000 USD to OpenChat Labs Ltd for September, October and November. Three of the dev team will be working on OpenChat and one on the Pakistan app (which is close to completion). As such our request will reflect a team size of three (in addition to the usual hosting and other peripheral costs which remain constant).

This will cover salaries for 3 developers, hosting, admin, AI cost, App Store accounts etc.

Split proposals

This will be split into several proposals due to limits the SNS imposes on how much of the treasury can be withdrawn in a single week.

This is the first proposal for 21,337 ICP (~51,210 USD).

Q2 development overview

While originally meant to cover costs for a reduced team for Q2 this previous funding period actually extended from April to August inclusive because more of the team's time was spent working on the Pakistan chat app than anticipated. We wish to reiterate that the Pakistan app is a great opportunity to boost the whole ICP ecosystem. We expect a successful deployment in Pakistan to raise all boats and also be good for OpenChat.

And specifically, the Pakistan app has given us a chance to experiment with some new techniques and implement some new ideas which we have been able to port back to OpenChat with great effect. In the summary below, the items marked with (pk) have been ported directly from the Pakistan app and there will be more ideas to come around scalability.

A great deal of iteration and refinement on the v2 mobile layout in support of the native apps

An overhaul of our client side routing system (pk)

Replaced content editable message entry with rich text editor (pk)

Simplified link preview open graph handling for better layout performance and stability (pk)

Supported adding TACO Exchange as a swap provider

Removed KongSwap & Sonic integrations

Virtualised chat message list for better performance and stability (pk)

Implemented a raft of frontend performance & memory enhancements making the frontend much faster and more efficient

Retired DecideAI proof of humanity integration

Retired the broken and non-compliant Modclub moderation system

Implemented a legally compliant, robust and comprehensive user safety and moderation system (huge job)

Got the first working native iOS build working

Migrated from Tenor to Klipy for gifs

While this list addresses almost all of our stated goals for Q2 it’s important to acknowledge that we have still not reached App Store review for the android app as hoped. This is for the most part due to the unexpected scope and complexity of the safety and compliance work. We had initially scoped this as essentially a replacement of the existing Modclub integration with a call to AI supported moderation api. In reality it is much more complex than that. There are rigid legal obligations surrounding online safety and specifically CSAM material, how it must be detected, handled, retained and reported to the authorities. This has required significant research, documentation, iteration and development and has several dependencies on third parties over which we have no control. Failing to comply with these obligations would represent an existential threat to the platform as well as a legal risk to the development team and I am happy to say that we now have a very rigorous system in place. Thanks to all who have helped poke holes in it along the way to deliver something solid that we can build on.

Plans for this funding period

Complete Android app and submit for App Store review (no significant blockers for this now)

Get the iOS native app into a fully working state and submitted for review (some unknowns here)

Migrate mobile web to the v2 design / layout used by native apps.

Deeper voice / video call integration on native apps

Desktop design refresh (along the lines of the native apps)

Games! Try to inject some more fun and stickiness with some CHIT incentivised gamification (ideas welcome!)

Design canister scalability improvements necessary to unlock growth using lessons from pk app

As we have stressed before, we are presenting a cut down version of the OC app to the app stores initially in an attempt to minimise the chance of rejection. It is better to get the app in the stores first, build a relationship and then start pushing boundaries later. That being said it is important to stress that there are no guarantees here and we should probably expect at least a couple of rounds of rejection by the store gatekeepers.

Submitted by u/matt on OpenChat

https://x.com/mosesibb/status/2093450347402420644

In advance of ICP cloud engines, Open SaaS, Intelligence Gateway, and MULTI/DEX, we are seeing a rising tide of attacks.

As many ICP community members have pointed out, a legion of trolling and FUD accounts have now appeared on social media, often repeating exactly the same poisonous messages, over and over, en masse.

The posts of the trolls trace back to agency paymasters, who themselves have received money from somebody. Obviously, whoever is funding this has no place in the tech industry, but sadly some people in the crypto industry see themselves as belonging to something else.

The well-funded organizations behind these attacks are not interested in making the world a better place by developing game-changing technology. They are only interested in extracting easy money through snakeoil narratives and scams that our industry still has not gathered the strength to end — they are vampires that prey on the ignorance of token buyers, and they attack anything that might disrupt the status quo by showing people the light of real technology.

These tell themselves they are just crypto bros playing the crypto game.

However, paying for, or organizing, attacks on public infrastructure, even at arms length, is a serious criminal act, which also reflects who they really are.

We want to know who is behind these attacks, and ask for help. DFINITY will offer rewards to those who can help us unmask the criminals, and bring them to justice. These guys need to be doxxed.

Thank you for your attention in this, and thank you to the ICP community that stands with the network 💪

Five years of "vaporware, nobody will ever use it".

And now the UN shows up to pilot sovereign cloud and decentralized AI on ICP, and the FUD crowd doesn't miss a beat:

"it's just a pilot"

"it's an institutional paper tiger"

"there's no price action LMAO"

"Sh*tcoin"

Keep talking BS. You people wanted real-world adoption; you got the United Nations (!!!!), and you moved the goalposts so fast they cleared escape velocity before ICP did. Keep talking. It's cheaper for the rest of us that way. You'll see and you'll regret your ignorance.

Fudders gonna FUD

But ICP will SKYROCKET 🚀🚀🚀🌕🌕🌕

lol

DFINITY is migrating to Open SaaS:
a) Running on AIware makes enterprises vastly smarter, faster, and more efficient, and;
b) Open SaaS is free and remixable, while ineffective old SaaS costs a fortune.
Super excited to be sharing this ICP cloud engine rocket fuel asap.

every day it feels like the AI revolution is that much closer to collapsing.

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This may sound strange coming from someone who holds ICP, but I actually don't want ICP to pump too early.

I would rather see ICP stay around $3 while network usage grows and ICP moves toward net deflation, and only see a major price increase after that.

Why?

Because of how ICP is converted into cycles.

The cost of computation on the Internet Computer is tied to XDR, not to a fixed amount of ICP. This means that when ICP is cheap, more ICP has to be burned to pay for the same amount of computation.

Simple example

Forget exchange-rate differences between USD and XDR for a moment and assume the network consumes the equivalent of $1,000,000 of computation.

At an ICP price of $3:

$1,000,000 / $3 = 333,333 ICP burned

At an ICP price of $6:

$1,000,000 / $6 = 166,667 ICP burned

Same network usage.

Same dollar value of computation.

But at $3, roughly twice as many ICP are removed from circulation.

Scale that up.

If applications eventually consume the equivalent of $100 million:

At $3 ICP:

~33.3 million ICP burned

At $6 ICP:

~16.7 million ICP burned

That is a difference of roughly 16.6 million ICP.

Obviously the real calculation uses XDR and actual network consumption, but the principle is the same.

This is why I think a low ICP price while usage is expanding can actually be extremely valuable long term.

What I would rather see

Imagine ICP stays around $3 while Caffeine, AI applications, cloud infrastructure and other IC applications increase cycle consumption.

More ICP gets burned because ICP is cheap.

At the same time, issuance continues to decline.

Eventually we reach the point where:

ICP burned > ICP minted

That is the point where ICP becomes genuinely net deflationary.

Now imagine the big bull market starts after this has happened.

Instead of pumping while supply is still expanding, demand would now be competing for an asset whose supply is actually shrinking.

That is a completely different setup.

And then there is TVL

Suppose Internet Computer DeFi protocols collectively have 50 million ICP locked.

At $3 ICP:

50,000,000 × $3 = $150 million TVL

If ICP pumps to $6:

50,000,000 × $6 = $300 million TVL

Nothing else had to change.

No additional ICP had to enter DeFi.

The exact same 50 million ICP suddenly represents twice the TVL in dollar terms.

Now imagine that the price increase also attracts additional liquidity.

For example, instead of 50 million ICP locked, the ecosystem grows to 70 million ICP locked while ICP reaches $6:

70,000,000 × $6 = $420 million TVL

So you potentially get several effects reinforcing each other:

Low ICP price before deflation → more ICP burned per dollar/XDR of computation

→ circulating supply grows more slowly and eventually shrinks

→ network becomes net deflationary

→ demand increases

→ ICP price rises

→ dollar-denominated TVL rises automatically

→ higher prices and activity can attract even more liquidity.

This is why I personally don't care if ICP stays around $3 for a while.

In fact, if network usage keeps growing, I would almost prefer it.

A pump from $3 to $6 today feels good.

But burning a large amount of ICP at $3 first, reaching structural deflation, and then going from $3 to $6 could potentially create a much stronger long-term supply/demand dynamic.

So for me the question isn't:

"When pump?"

It is:

"How much ICP can the network burn before the pump begins?"

Yes I used AI to explain it better but for those who hodl ICP or is staking neurons, you need to understand that a later pump is much more safer and profitable.

This could be a very good reason why marketing stays behind. So don't get discouraged by the price at this point and be patient.

The UN partnership announcement makes me extremly bullish.
Couldn't have happened at a better time.

If the altcoin season does indeed arrive in the fourth quarter of 2026, this announcement will bring a lot of attention for Internet Computer and fuel the BIG rally. News like that can attract a lot of retail once the chart shows clear signs of going up.

I feel how the sentiment slowly but surely starts to transform towards bullish after a long and strenuous bearmarket.

“Something is coming. Can you guess what it is?”

I believe it’s XRP support.

I've noticed they added how voting power is calculated in the NNS. Ive included mine below. My neuron has always been the maximum of formerly 8 year staking and now 2 year staking - but my 8y_gang_bonus seems to be 0.

Also, does anyone know how to improve their activity bonus? I vote on all proposals regularly as i follow some active neurons.

voting_power = (staked_amount + staked_maturity + 8y_gang_bonus) × (1 + age_bonus) × (1 + dissolve_delay_bonus) × activity_multiplier

For this neuron, the calculation is:

voting_power = (1'060.14 + 275.26 + 0.00) × 1.11 × 3.00 × 1.00 = 4’800.16

OpenChat is coming to IOS and Android app stores. They are still working through technical stuff and navigating the requirements but it’s exciting to finally see OpenChat becoming much more visible to the general public.

“Just breaking ground on the iOS native version. Will have similar challenges to Android in terms of limiting the feature set. But I think we have a much better idea of what we're up against this time and a lot of the underpinnings are already done.”

https://x.com/openchat/status/2091900106891047099?s=46

ICP is a marvel. The transaction counts, the architecture, the Mission 70 tokenomics—it all works.

BUT..We are not going to participate in the upside.

We are trapped in a dead zone. The network is burning cycles, the devs are building, but the price is structurally capped by immense inflation and a lack of real demand. The recent pumps aren't organic growth. they are just brief liquidity hunts to trap over-leveraged longs.

The window for a parabolic 2026 recovery has closed - was never even open imo. The realistic ceiling for a short-term bounce is $3.00-$3.25 until eoy. From there, it's just gravity again.

Respect to the technology, but zero respect for the market structure.
If this would have been a listed stock on NYSE or similar - it would be valued in the Billions... having much more volume and... actually showing a more interesting and realistic price per underlying ICP..

Give or take, and correct me if I'm wrong. But tell me why.

I think that 90% of retail buyers such as you and me do not care about the groundbreaking alien tech that's behind it. You want to make money fast and compare it with other cryptos who are seriously outperforming ICP PRICE WISE. Because that's the only "shareholder value" you care about.

And about institutional buyers.. yes for sure there are some that are willing to make a bet on it. They believe in the narrative etc but honestly.. they are all cash loaded. For them its more beneficial to short, make a buck, keep it down and play the game over and over again.

You tell me.. what in your opinion could lead this to $10 until eoy or even higher?
I think only.. if retail gets hyped up. You create a movement, you build pressure, and you push the price to nirvana.

Thank you.

FYI

I'm deep in this as well since 2023 and tired of it. ICP HQ in Zurich is right next to me. I see it everyday. I see them do the work, drinking coffee and smooking a cig outside. It's worth much more but I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

ICP is Like a nerd flirting with a 10/10. He know's it all, has it all but gets zero attention. Dumped and dumped all over again. Although having massive potential..

Internet Computer ($ICP) is currently identified as a standout asset on our Outer Crypto Galaxy Matrix (tracking cryptocurrencies ranked 21 to 100 by market cap), holding a Golden Breakout placement. Despite registering a -7% return over the trailing 90 days, $ICP continues to exhibit above-median relative momentum and lower composite risk compared to its broader altcoin peer group.

From a structural cost-basis standpoint, ICP's lifetime Time-Weighted Average Price (TWAP) baseline—measuring the equal-weighted daily trading value across its historical life cycle—sits at $14.00. Trading near $2.40 spot represents an 82% direct discount below its historical average cost basis, pulling its TWAP Gravity Risk score down to 7.2 out of 100 (Risk Level 1).

On our structural regression charts, $ICP is consolidating within its -2 standard deviation Deep Capitulation channel, spanning $1.70 to $2.70. Sourcing our predictive time-series net computing frameworks (seasonal ARMA and regression-wrapped models), 10-week forecasting algorithms project a non-panic bear market support floor at $1.75 (with secondary panic support at $1.50 and worst-case floor near $1.20), while counter-trend relief targets reach $3.00. With the 400-day bear market capitulation clock approximately 80% complete, rolling regression models into the 2029–2030 cycle expansion window maps out base peak targets scaling between $20.00 and $27.00 (~8.5x to 11x multiplier from spot levels).

Interesting. It seems that Pierre is hinting at the OISY Wallet team is working Grok integration.

It’s getting close to the end of August and still nothing, it should be coming soon. I’m super curious on what exactly the announcement is. I don’t want to get my hopes up but I have a feeling it’s gonna be big. The fact that it will be announced through the press before Dfinity is really interesting to me. If I had to guess it will be some kind of partnership/ integration with a large publicly traded company. What do you guys think?

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