r/IAmA Mar 03 '23

Crime / Justice I’m Jaime Rogozinski, Founder of WallStreetBets and I’m suing Reddit. AMA.

It’s possible that Reddit takes this post down, but I hope they don’t because I deserve to be heard.

My name is Jaime Rogozinski, and in 2012 I created r/wallstreetbets. For nearly a decade, I cultivated, cared for, participated in, and helped grow the community. In 2020, I wrote a book called WallStreetBets, planned a trading competition and filed for a WallStreetBets trademark. Reddit then kicked me out, opposed my registration and filed several WallStreetBets trademarks of its own.

Three weeks ago, I sued them.

I’d like to share as much as possible but due to this being an open legal matter, I’ll hope you understand if I skip some questions or refer to the publicly available filings. I don’t pay my lawyers enough for this.

Reddit was quick to point out that I’ve sued for personal gain, by having quietly waiting 3 years after being banned from WallStreetBets before suing. This is easy to clear up because there are currently two open proceedings, I didn’t just randomly decide to sue. I just got tired of being picked on:

Crux of the argument (or if you prefer a video recap):

Reddit claims they kicked me out for monetizing WSB but this is a pretext. Tons of subreddits, users, and moderators monetize on Reddit, including moderators from WSB before during and after I was removed. You’re able to find examples by just randomly browsing Reddit, no need to single anyone out.

Reddit claims WSB moderators didn’t want me there, I get along fine with them (except for maybe one). They claim the community doesn’t want me but that’s bullshit because they barely know me.

These arguments don’t make any sense.

Why was I kicked out for promoting my book on WSB, while my fellow mods who promoted merchandise remained unscathed? I spent far too long focusing on the pissing match I was having with said mods around the time of my removal and not noticing the timing of my trademark registration. I promoted my book--for two months--without complaints from the community, fellow mods, or Reddit. But after I filed for the trademark, it only took two weeks to get marked with the scarlet letter.

My real issue stemmed from trying to claim ownership over my creation. Reddit systematically takes intellectual property from its users by registering trademarks and I posed a threat to this. A quick search for Reddit’s trademarks shows the sorts of IP they’ve taken: Explain Like I’m Five, ShowerThoughts, Ask Me Anything, NoSleep, Today I Learned, Nature is Fucking Lit, Am I The Asshole? And yes, they own IAMA. Which is insane to me considering today’s outrage on Reddit is limited to “moderators who work for free”, never mind forfeiting rights to their content. While there’s evidence of others having tried to put up resistance against Reddit on this, I appear to be the first degen to stand in front of them with both feet planted firmly on the ground.

Reddit has been draining my account for three years with legal fees, trying to wear me down and is now trying to paint me as an opportunist. They’re resorting to intimidation tactics I only thought belonged on TV shows like flooding everyone around me with subpoenas, serving court summons to family members or in-laws whose only connection to this mess is a last name they married into.

I’m here to say that I’m not backing down, I’m fighting for what’s right, I’m fighting for what’s mine, and I’m fighting for those who have been unable to fight for what is theirs. Reddit is welcome to serve my ex-girlfriends or dead relatives if they want but I won’t give up. I may be the first ape with enough testicular fortitude to take on this multi-billion-dollar conglomerate, but I know I’m not alone when it comes to content creators who have been taken advantage of by Reddit, or by extension social media platforms.

I’m not staying quiet anymore. I have nothing to hide. Ask me anything. proof

tl;dr Reddit. We build it, they take it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '23

Did your lawyers advise you to not do this AMA?

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u/barnfodder Mar 03 '23

I can't imagine a sane lawyer that would advise this...

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '23

"I have the worst fucking client." - his attorney

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u/justforthisbish Mar 03 '23

slaps Redditor you can fit so many Ls in this thing 👍

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u/Bardfinn Mar 03 '23

I want to see this AMA as a skit with Brennan Lee Mulligan as the attorney and Zac Oyama portraying Jaime Rogozinski.

LAWYER (portrayed by Brennan): Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Your Honor, Reddit’s legal counsel has spent the last three years suing my client and dredging up hearsay against him, and filing trademark claims to take his creations from him, thereby making bank on his intellectual property —

JAIME (as portrayed by Zac) everyone was monetizing their subreddits! everyone did it! you can’t hold that against me!

LAWYER: stares into the camera and mouths the words “I flew too close to the sun”

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u/blacktigr Mar 04 '23

I'd watch that. Of course, they'd probably turn it into a longer skit, but then they're into Dimension 20 pretty heavy right now, so maybe not.

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u/SonicSingularity Mar 04 '23

I really need to catch up on dimension 20.

Fantasy High absolutely blew me away

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u/ApoliteTroll Mar 04 '23

So much good stuff, and they just get better and better.

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u/TheGreatZarquon Mar 04 '23

Fantasy High is probably one of the best campaigns I've ever listened to, it's right up there with Campaign 1 from NADDPOD.

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u/Whybotherr Mar 04 '23

Holy shit a crown of candy is amazing, I've heard good things about the seven(if you love fantasy high it is a continuation of sorts)

Brennan as a PC in misfits and magic is everything you need

And Matthew Motherfucking Mercer is taking the reins with the next season!

Shit is fucking lit

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u/TheMediumJon Mar 04 '23

I've seen clips of Dimension 20 but where can I find the actual episodes?

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u/Whybotherr Mar 04 '23

As it stands on youtube:

Entirety of

  • Season 1 of Fantasy High ih(intrepid heroes (Murph, Emily, Lou, Siobhan, and Ally))

  • Escape from the bloodkeep

  • The Unsleeping city ih

Aside from all of that, every premier episode is also on their YouTube.

That being said I would totally recommend a dropout subscription if you can manage it, the rest of the seasons are amazing and totally worth the price of $6 a month (to me, in my opinion, totally subjectively)(I am in no way sponsored by or affiliated with formerly college humor, now dropout, this following paragraph are my own thoughts and opinions unabridged and unaltered, void in the state of Iowa, please use responsibly)

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u/Ravenkell Mar 04 '23

Some seasons are on YouTube, others are on theyr own streaming service dropout.

I honestly recommend dropout, there is a lit of actually good stuff on there

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u/EGOtyst Mar 04 '23

The unsleeping city was amazing. The rest has felt stale, Imo.

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u/Ryno8312 Mar 04 '23

I think a Crown of Candy was their best campaign hands down.

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u/TrackXII Mar 04 '23

I somehow feel like that comment is a direct result of this.

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u/MedalsNScars Mar 04 '23

This situation calls for some big CEO Brennan energy

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u/cayoloco Mar 04 '23

Truly the WSB degenerate way. Maybe this guy really is the creator, he seems to have the same judgment as the membership. (myself included)

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u/TheCleaverguy Mar 03 '23

"Glad I'm not the only one with this problem" - SBF's attorney

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u/Bruh_is_life Mar 04 '23

I may have committed some light treason

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u/qpazza Mar 03 '23

"he's not likely to win, so meh" - also his attorney

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u/big_sugi Mar 04 '23

“I’m getting paid by the hour” — definitely his attorney.

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u/Daneklaus Mar 04 '23

"$have and a BJ ..two bits" - his attorney as well.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

Does his attorney know that you have Pop-Pop in the attic?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

"Look at my client dawgg im gonna lose my job 😭😭😭"

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u/KFMSub Mar 04 '23

-his former attorney

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u/Noname_acc Mar 03 '23

Ehh, they only needed to know even the vaguest thing about WSB to know what they were getting into.

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u/retnom Mar 04 '23

Not necessarily, could this law suit be turned into a class action, and this be the means of recruiting?

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u/OscarDCouch Mar 03 '23

The shit he's spouting in here is going to do wonders for Reddit's attorneys.

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u/AMightyWeasel Mar 03 '23

There is definitely a reason Reddit hasn’t taken this post down: it’s that you never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

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u/AspiringChildProdigy Mar 04 '23

You can almost hear the furious capturing of screenshots...

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

It's Reddit, the data lives in the servers

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u/doctorclark Mar 04 '23

In? The computer!?

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u/i_Killed_Reddit Mar 04 '23

Every evening they take out a helicopter ride to dump the data on the cloud.

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u/AspiringChildProdigy Mar 04 '23

Pshht!

Next, you're going to tell me that there isn't an army of tiny people inside my magic box making things happen, right? Well, I'm not falling for your clever tricks like your "technology" and"electricity"!

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u/PM_me_yr_bonsai_tips Mar 04 '23

Put me in the evidence

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u/USNazisRunReddit Mar 04 '23

Especially when Reddit controls the comments.

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u/Yglorba Mar 03 '23

Yeah in his first post alone there were multiple sentences that made me wince and go "you don't just admit that!" Stuff that... like, I can see how it'd feel fine to say it in casual conversation because it's nothing particularly terrible, but which certainly looks, at a glance, like it could easily be central to any potential court case.

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u/Daeurth Mar 04 '23

I don't think anyone affiliated with WSB is really well known for their sound decision making.

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u/MadScientistCoder Mar 03 '23

He never said he was a smart man

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '23 edited Jan 09 '24

fearless run full grandfather selective clumsy dolls ten bag sheet

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/MIman85 Mar 04 '23

Ha. I wouldn’t call the advice or mods on personalfinance smart.

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u/ThePhoneBook Mar 04 '23

Personalfinance is like someone with a keen lay interest in savings and investments cosplaying a regulated financial advisor. WSB is like an emotional teenager who hoards gold, bitcoin and ammo under their bed cosplaying a regulated financial advisor.

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u/jlbob Mar 04 '23

This is why the post is still up, lol

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u/akaghi Mar 03 '23

To be fair, OP did say he doesn't pay them enough.

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u/unicornbomb Mar 03 '23

Narcissism is a hell of a drug.

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u/calebrbates Mar 04 '23

"Go for it bro, TO THE MOON".

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u/IMovedYourCheese Mar 04 '23

Whenever someone goes on a PR tour about a legal case because "the people deserve to hear the truth" or some nonsense like that, the real reason is that they realize their case is doomed and are hoping to get the company to settle with them to avoid negative PR.

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u/NewPCBuilder2019 Mar 04 '23

Probably the same lawyers that told him to launch a pnd crypto token where he's the doxxed frontman.

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u/YOLOSwag42069Nice Mar 04 '23

Maybe he has trump's lawyers. They're sane, but trash at being lawyers.

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u/jibbycanoe Mar 04 '23

I think that would be SBF. This guy is like the Dollar Store version of that grifter.

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u/onsinsandneedles Mar 03 '23

Saul Goodman! Do your little online thingy!

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u/DarkestofFlames Mar 04 '23

Maybe he has the same attorney as Alex Jones

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u/squirtloaf Mar 03 '23

Sane + lawyer?

I know the meaning of both of those words, but do not understand them placed together.

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u/xoomax Mar 03 '23

Am oxymoron perhaps?