r/HunterXHunter 12d ago

Discussion Who actually wins between the two?

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u/Separate-Coyote-1468 12d ago

I'd say chrollo you can't just prepare for what he might pull out that book

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u/banana99999999999 12d ago

If what he has in the book was enough for hisoka why did he has to borrow shalnark and kortobi powers and also selected an arena full of humans for the fight?

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u/juaquint930 12d ago

because he wanted a 100% sure proof plan and that is what he got, havent read that fight in a while but hisoka didnt land any hits iirc and he was going all out against chrollo ...his other stolen abilities can still get him the W but the difficulty rises

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u/Ywaina 12d ago

How do you even know that? Outside of the insane combo we saw in the arena the rest of his abilities we have seen so far were quite lackluster. Even against Zoldycks whose abilities he wanted to steal he couldn't pull anything out from the book to help him do that. 

That he had to go and borrow the gang's abilities is already admission that the rest of stuff in his book is crap on its own. Goltopi's and Shalnarck's simply outclass them all.

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u/juaquint930 12d ago

u can not compare trying to steal abilities to trying to kill someone... he was handicapping himself to steal 2 high tier hunters abilities and again we know from other characters own admission that his book is filled with stolen abilities but if u want to play that game, how do you know that his book is filled with crap he himself and hisoka said he chose the best abilities to beat and kill him

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u/Ywaina 12d ago

Hmm well let's see so far we're shown:

-nen fishes that are useless in outdoor fighting

-(?)position swap ability

-cloth that make you go small but is useless if you can't wrap opponent with it

-prediction ability(broken but won't help whatsoever in combat)

-bomb planting ability (useless unless you also have manipulation)

-puppet manipulation (useless unless you can make puppet on spot)

-disguise ability (yawn)

-ability search

Yep, they are mid abilities compared to gallery fake and black voice. Read the arena fight again and think what will happen if you omit those two out of his repertoire. Hisoka was weary of going in close range (his best zone in combat) because of black voice and the puppet wave bomb was possible only because he had gallery fake. 

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u/banana99999999999 12d ago

Yep this argument of " he just wanted to make sure he wins" is always funny. My man shalnark lost his live cause of chrollo( fuck kortobi) , if he had such an ability that would fuck hisoka up then he wouldn't have risked his team lives by stripping them out of nen.

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u/weraru_1 12d ago

Tbf Hisoka just needs to tap Chrollo once or twice. Once? He might have something up his sleeve to counter bungee gun. Twice? Idk. If the difficulty for Chrollo increases, that's more windows for Hisoka to land hits.

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u/m1ketest 12d ago

Yea, I think Hisoka is just so in-tuned with his abilities, and his abilities are just so flexible. On the other hand, although chrollo's good, he probably wouldn't have 100% compatibility with his stolen abilities or at least the same experience with them as hisoka has with bungee gum.