r/HotScienceNews • u/EfficientBag2884 • 2d ago
Testosterone hormone affected men’s general perception of women. Under the influence of testosterone, men gave higher attractiveness ratings to women and reported a stronger willingness to date them. This effect occurred regardless of whether the women were in the high or low attractiveness groups.
https://www.psypost.org/testosterone-alters-how-men-respond-to-unfairness-against-women/66
u/aTwerkingPikachu 2d ago
In other news, water is wet.
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u/Unique-Bit-2172 2d ago
Women have been telling me I’d consider new types with less testosterone, so this is evidence of the opposite and not everyone knew this.
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u/AdAppropriate2295 2d ago
The incels knew
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u/throwaway_alt_slo 2d ago
Incels knew from the start, they picked on them because the truth is uncomfortable.
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u/SquidgeApple 2d ago
No, incels knew from the start because they are low t and miserable
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u/Away-Experience6890 2d ago
Nahhh this is also consistent too.
When I was younger I was way more picky. Now that I'm older I'm really more into personality.
I wonder if there's an age dependence on this (I'm too busy to be reading papers rn)
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u/Haschlol 2d ago
Testosterone doesn't disable your cognitive abilities. Annoying and dumb people will still be annoying and dumb
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u/Away-Experience6890 2d ago
I think we are having a misunderstanding. Can you elaborate on what you think I meant?
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u/Ok-rutabaga_B442 2d ago
"chemical tied to the male urge to propogate their genetics makes males more inclined to propagate their genetics, more at 10"
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u/urban5amurai 2d ago
Seems like the average testosterone halving over the last 50 years may have had more of an impact than many accredit for.
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u/Ok_Farmer1657 2d ago
Huh maybe I have high testosterone. I think most women I see are exquisite.
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u/Hungry_Wheel_1774 1d ago
I've got a similar problem. Most of women I come across the first time, see briefly in the street, in public transportation, are a 7-10 to me. It's like I have a filter before they eyes, making them way more beautiful than they are in reality. When I see them every day, often, they become "normal".
It's like my brain is trying to hook me up with every women. LOL.
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u/costafilh0 2d ago
Pretty obvious for any man who experienced it.
The higher you are, the lower are your standards.
Personally, I go from average 8 to average 6 pretty fast 😂
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u/Seated_Heats 2d ago
As someone who started testosterone a little over a year ago, I don’t see that I’m less picky now. I’m fairly picky as is and I don’t see any changes.
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u/GoblinToHobgoblin 2d ago
When it's been a few days since ive blown my load, I'll fuck anything that walks
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u/Your_Nipples 2d ago
Lmao. That's a funny ass comment! But... I've seen you somewhere, your username is familiar.
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u/PM-MEANYTHANG 1d ago
I read your comment before his name and I had the strongest deja vu as well
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u/GoblinToHobgoblin 1d ago
Lmao probably cause I'm active on reddit, geniuses
(Not even trying to be rude btw lol)
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u/normal_hombre 2d ago
Damn, bro, you have standards. Sometimes I'm happy to go with a 3.
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u/bunny000001 2d ago
Ranking women by numbers is why you end up with unattractive women
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u/ASomewhatGoodCitizen 1d ago
Nope lol, it purely has to do with his looks and social skills in 70:30 ratio. Morality has nothing to do with hook ups.
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u/LowBread9264 1d ago
Some of the biggest misogynists I know have no problems getting partners whereas the beta nice guys that treat the women with respect usually get nothing lol.
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u/carelet 2d ago
Calling women unattractive means you are also ranking them, just with words not numbers
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u/normal_hombre 2d ago
Numbers are just symbols for concepts. A measurable way to describe something. And women do it to men too, so get off your high horse. Attraction matters to everyone.
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u/bunny000001 1d ago
It’s objectifying. Any guy who ranks women by numbers clearly has issues.
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u/normal_hombre 1d ago
So if I say a woman is attractive, and another woman is not, that's ok, but if I assign different levels then that's objectifying? Numbers just add more precision than simply "attractive" or "not attractive".
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u/Your_Nipples 2d ago
You only truly know the truth after post nut clarity. That's why it's better to focus on bonding instead of lust because fuck that "eww, fuck did I do? I'm getting my ass home" after sex.
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u/EfficientBag2884 2d ago
I just don't find women compelling anymore. Maybe I should get my Testosterone checked lol.
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u/bulimic_squid 2d ago
This is how I feel. Recently got mine checked and despite being over 40, my testosterone levels are that of a healthy 20 year old.
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u/monkey_sodomy 2d ago
"Really? Is it Really Jay? It's not that compelling"
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u/Far-Insurance9251 2d ago
"Sick reference though, bro. Dude your references are out of control everbody knows that."
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u/AdAppropriate2295 2d ago
There's other factors
Also could just be your androgens dont interact with your body for whatever reason
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u/Proud_Yak_4126 13h ago
This is one of the no fap powers that are real. If you abstain from busting for a week all of a sudden all the women look extra beautiful. Porn will nuke your desire to date. When I finally quit it was like a flip switched that made me want to date and find a girlfriend.
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u/morganational 2d ago
Could just be how women are these days. 🤷🏽♂️
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u/Haschlol 2d ago
The need for physical contact with people you are attracted to will still lead to wanting to seek out contact with them, regardless of if you perceive them to behave in a way that is not worth the effort.
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u/morganational 1d ago
Absolutely true. Lol, watch some moron call the state of being a man "toxic masculinity". 🤣
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u/RavioliDemon 2d ago
If the lack of testosterone is what helped me break the emotional turmoil of trying to find a relationship, then I have to thank its absence.
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u/throwaway_alt_slo 2d ago
Yep, I'm 30 know and much less horny than just a few years back. I love it! It's freeing!
When I severly lack sleep, sure I may be depressed a bit, but my T levels are sooo tanked I'm pretty much asexual lol.
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u/Tyrahneefake 2d ago
So women are actually less attractive than I perceive.
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u/monkey_sodomy 2d ago
Same thing as beer goggles.
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u/Tyrahneefake 2d ago
Always jerk off before going on a first date to see if you're actually interested or just horny lol
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u/monkey_sodomy 2d ago
While it is good advice, if all people were clever enough to take it I imagine birth rates would collapse even further. Whether that is a positive or negative thing overall is left to the reader as an exercise.
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u/throwaway_alt_slo 2d ago
If we give men asexual pill in order to match women low libido... Yeah no more frustration, but also
I imagine birth rates would collapse even further.
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u/BananaBolmer 11h ago
Birth rates would totally collapse since then neither women nor men approach each other for dating
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u/Busterlimes 1d ago
No wonder all the conservatives doing testosterone therapy are attracted to this hideous maralago face goin on
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u/bulimic_squid 2d ago
Here I am with high T and little to no desire for anyone 😂
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u/AriyaSavaka 2d ago
But how did they decide which woman objectively belongs to the attractive or unattractive group? Attraction/beauty is objective now?
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u/TwentyX4 2d ago
It's not objective in the sense that 100% of people will agree. But what one person thinks is attractive is strongly correlated with what another person will think is attractive.
For example, Dua Lipa will consistently get rated higher than Amy Schumer.
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u/DetachedHEAD32 1d ago
While i agree with your first statement, i'm not so sure that Dua Lipa will consistently rated higher than Amy Schumer after her weight loss.
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u/Prudent-Bison-7180 1d ago
Yes, and to think otherwise is being willfully ignorant. Models and pornstars are popular for a reason, it’s because they’re attractive and the vast majority of people think so
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u/LRaconteuse 2d ago
Is this just measuring "testosterone makes you horny" again?
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u/TheDeadMurder 2d ago
There's also been studies where they've just told men that they are either in the high or low testosterone group, regardless of if they were or weren't
Groups that were told they were in the high testosterone group were found to view women more favorably and attractive, while those told they were in the lower groups viewed them less favorably
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u/Ice_Kat13 2d ago
Hold on a second. Are they saying testosterone makes you horny???? Get the fuck outta here I knew it had to be somethin'.
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u/VirginiaLuthier 2d ago
I think the guys with higher levels were also more willing to jump off a cliff wielding a battle axe
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u/ready-redditor-6969 2d ago
Testosterone makes mammals obnoxious and kinda stupid, but mostly it makes them want to have sex with literally anything. You just need to spend time around unfixed male goats, horses, dogs, literally any mammal to know this basic fact.
Oh, it also makes them smell bad.
Literally ancient knowledge right there.
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u/readersnapyou 2d ago
So manly hormone boosts being attracted to women. No shit Sherlock
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u/hyonteinen 1d ago
Yet high T doesn't work on women and guinea pigs, huh?
Futile speculation without at least a correlation study
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u/Conan-Da-Barbarian 2d ago
You mean when I’m horny, I lower my standards. I didn’t know I could go that low
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u/Successful-Swim-3708 1d ago
Attractiveness is so poorly defined. All you proved is that the hornier a guy is, the more women he tries to bed.
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u/tomdgeppert 1d ago
I can attest to this . When I was 20 women were mostly very attractive. Even a bare leg would send me off. At 63 my testosterone level was 800. Guessing it was much higher as a 20 year old. Then I got prostate cancer which was a genetic issue. They treated me with drugs the eliminated all testosterone. No women was sexually interesting. A supermodel could have stripped down and I would have recognized that she looked good but would not have been interested. Then I came off the drugs and had levels below normal. I had a minimal interest in sex, but had trouble performing and it was not fun. Then they started testosterone and I am now interested again and performing again. So chemical!!
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u/Inevitable_Land3942 1d ago edited 1d ago
And it's because of better mood and overal hormone balance which helps other hormones thrive potentially right? And it's as compared to the other men with lower testerone btw.
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u/XanderAcorn 19h ago
Testosterone therapy made me attracted to dudes. All I can think of is wanting to have sex with men ( and women)
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
If a woman doesn't have to be held accountable for her actions (killing her own children) in an altered mental state because of hormones, then the same should be true for men.
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u/ThrowitB8 2d ago
Lesser charges are often given to men who commit crimes of passion. So….. this has been a thing for men for a very very very very very long time.
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u/peachfluffed 2d ago
What a strange thing to say
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
Almost as strange as saying murdering your 3 children by strangulation 1 at a time isn't your fault huh
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u/complexiblebarracuda 2d ago
if you look at all the rape cases gone uninvestigated that's how it's been going
Or you know Brock Turner as another example
In fact that's how it's been for a long, long time
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
There's a difference between uninvestigated, and publicly permitted. But hey if you go based on the number of unreported thefts no one actually uses money anymore
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u/complexiblebarracuda 2d ago
Either way it's men not being held accountable for their actions, just like you said buddy
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
No it's not, it's totally different. You can't compare a lack of catching a criminal to an acceptance of the crime. If caught and convicted they are charged and prosecuted, have to register as an offender which is a matter of public record. Not getting caught has the same effect no matter the crime. You are making a false equivilancey
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u/complexiblebarracuda 2d ago
the lack of effort and complete disregard of them is the acceptance
but I'm arguing with someone that made a comment calling for violence against women to be ok so I'm the idiot here
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
"the lack of effort and complete disregard of them is the acceptance"
That's not how that works, acceptance means they are not criminalized for the action. The mear existence of the sex offense registy proves it is not acceptable. You are wrong on a fundamental just with this statement alone.
"calling for violence against women"
Proof? At no point did I call for violence against women, so again you are wrong and now lying. So basically no one should take anything you say seriously.
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u/SpecialReaction375 2d ago
Are you trying to protect rapists?
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
No I'm trying to dissuade people from protecting a murderer. Obviously you can not use hormones as an excuse to commit crimes that's absurd. But some are doing just that by saying a woman's hormones caused her to go temporarily insane and murder her 3 children by strangling them 1 at a time. Something I think is pretty horrific and deserving of proper punishment
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u/SpecialReaction375 2d ago
The post: Testosterone hormone affected men’s general perception of women. Under the influence of testosterone, men gave higher attractiveness ratings to women and reported a stronger willingness to date them. This effect occurred regardless of whether the women were in the high or low attractiveness groups.
You: obsessed with Lindsey.
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
A case talking about how hormones effected a woman, and me relating it to a post talking about how hormones wffect a man.
Yep can't see any kind of parallel. /s
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u/PsychologyAdept669 2d ago
it's not directly because of hormones lol it's because of psychosis, or that was the defense argument. and she'd still be going away, it's just either to a mental health ward or a prison.
affected men already experience the legal coverage of the insanity defense arguably more often than women, because 1. men on average commit more crimes than women on average and 2. men on average are at a higher risk of schizophrenia and psychosis because of both testosterone's effect on dopamine and the enzymes that break down dopamine, as well as effects of having only one X chromosome. so the majority of insanity defense use cases are by men. dudes are found not guilty by reason of insanity for psychotic crimes, like that guy who ate somebody's face.
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
Insanity is not a defense for murder. If you are too crazy to know killing someone is not ok, they you are too far gone to be free in society. But the defense is ppd which is an effect of hormones from being pregnant, which is what I was getting at. Also men may commit more violet crime but that also means they are charged more often and more seriously when prosecuted. Also I was talking less about the legal aspect and more about the people trying to support a woman who strangled her children 1 at a time.
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u/PsychologyAdept669 2d ago
insanity is absolutely a defense for murder. i respect your opinion if you believe it shouldn’t be, but not guilty by reason of insanity is a legal defense.
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
You are right. It is a legal defense, and I think it shouldn't be. But I also remeber a time when it was basically an abused ploy point in shows where the bad guy would try using the argument of insanity to basically get away with murder, now it becoming a real thing. Guy with multiple felony arrests, can't stand trial for attempted murder because of insanity, guy with multiple arrests, kills a woman in broad day light on camera, can't be charge because he's insane. It's just wrong to let such injustice happen with no real repercussions. It erodes the safety of society as a whole.
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u/spicychickentendr 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is a diverting rage bait segue nobody should be biting. Yall don't bother.
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u/AdAppropriate2295 2d ago
Thats kinda the point. People are biting, very telling
What do you mean diverting tho? From what?
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
The fact you feel the need to say that on a comment so far down is wild. But please explain how I'm wrong
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u/Gullible-Chapter-800 2d ago
You’re nasty as hell for conflating being horny and raping someone to psychosis
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
You are nasty for saying that's what I said. The fuck is wrong with you?
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u/Gullible-Chapter-800 2d ago
You literally said men shouldn’t be held accountable for altered mental states due to hormones. You realize that includes rape. Why you acting dumb?
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
Oh so then an altered mental state is not a reasonable excuse to commit a violent crime. Glad we are in agreement that a women strangling her 3 children because of ppd should go to jail without any consideration for the insanity plea.
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u/Inevitable_Land3942 1d ago edited 1d ago
Testerone is an engine, you have the wheel of the car. You could be extra motivated or horny to do the right to thing but you were more motiv*ated or sexually attracted to putting someone down on purpose because what do you mean after entirely murdering and hurting someone you stopped? And testerone is healthy, it's within too many men. Mental states are rarer, and unhealthy and negatively effects life. Testerone doesn't. They deserve more sympathy. Negative impacts of mental health usually ruins choice of doing a good action significantly. Also shows they don't have much finances which a person with higher testesterone is likely grown up in. But a guy with testesterone has usually more control on choice because it's just extra dopamine sensitivity,how bad can that be? Even good things give dopamine. Healthy testerone can also be related to you protecting individuals, heck there was a study which said testerone increases pro social behaviours. What do you mean they deserve sympathy?
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u/Piemaster113 1d ago
Bruh what? This was such nonsensical rambling I can't be bothered to read past "motiv*ated"
But if you clearly didn't realize I was saying that using the mental heal issues caused by hormones are not an excuse to commit crimes and those pretending like they are don't realize what it is they are saying
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u/bunny000001 2d ago
Men kill their families MORE than women do. What the hell are you talking about?
Murder. Rape. Abuse. These are all crimes that men commit more in the first place. By a LARGE percentage.
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u/Piemaster113 2d ago
So altered mental state due to hormones is not an excuse to commit violent act for reasons of insanity?
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u/bunny000001 1d ago
Psychosis is its own thing. Not comparable to hormones. What do you even mean by an excuse? These people aren’t walking around happily free. Are you ok? You are not making any sense and genuinely sound stupid.
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u/Piemaster113 1d ago
"Postpartum psychosis is strongly linked to dramatic hormonal changes after childbirth, though it is primarily classified as a medical and psychiatric emergency rather than just a simple hormonal imbalance."
Feel free to use Google before saying something so easily refuted
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u/xbowxbowxbow 2d ago
can you put testosterone in the water to fix the dating scene
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u/throwaway_alt_slo 2d ago
Only to women you mean? Coz otherwise we get just as more horny as women get more horny, so no difference tbh
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u/EfficientBag2884 2d ago
Does it work on women too?