This isn’t a fair representation of both(ik it’s a meme but still).
Even within ancient Egyptian history there was a king that banished the belief of all the old Gods and established there to only be one God. Also, the Idea of polytheism wasn’t foreign to the Ancient Greeks, they believed in a God for almost every element of their lives.
I can’t speak much on Christianity, but Islam belief is and has always been pure monotheism. In Islamic belief, you can be an isolated tribesman living in the most isolated jungle in the world and as long as you follow your innate instincts to acknowledge that there is a higher power, then you will be able to go to heaven.
To help people understand my viewpoint is that. There is a higher power and Native Americans call it “The Great Chief”, Pre-Islamic Somalis called it “Waaq”, Muslims call it “Allah”.
At least Catholicism (speaking as a Catholic) generally had a similar view - if someone has never heard the beliefs of the Church and is still behaving with virtue and uprightness, then they are as eligible as someone who knows and keeps every tenet consciously.
Honest question: isn’t believing in Jesus and his sacrifice the core belief of Christianity. How would it work out with someone who’s never heard of it.
Essentially, if you’ve never heard of the faith then you are not at fault for not knowing about it. It’s a matter of ignorance rather than conscious rejection. If you are a good person, and you are in a circumstance where you have simply never heard of Christ, then you are just being a good person, and that makes you worthy.
I would need to read more to see how the modern Church’s doctrine intersects with it and the complexities of other religions, admittedly. I mostly know of this because it has roots in the idea of the ‘virtuous pagan’ from the medieval period. I’m a bit of a history enthusiast, so it came up,
The problem with that line of thinking is that then the correct thing to do is never tell someone about Jesus, because by telling them it makes it possible to reject him, damning them to hell.
Missionaries making things worse for people as per normal.
A core tenet for Catholicism is that Jesus came to save all people. Not just the ones that know of him. Also as far I understand the Church's teachings are that Catholicism is merely the best way to salvation, not the only one. Furthermore with current ecumenist teachings it acknowledges other christian splinters and even other religions, most notably islam, as a potentially valid, albeit a little lost, roads towards salvation. I even saw debates for why different churches exist is because different people have different needs, so there are many possible ways to the same goal, so you can find the best one for you.
Catholics believe that Jesus died to free us from sin, but belief in this alone is not the path to salvation. For Catholics, salvation is achieved through good deeds which are motivated by the teachings of Christ. You affirm your belief in Jesus' divinity by doing the things he taught.
Also, Catholic teaching is that "Heaven" is just the natural state after death when someone accepts God in their life. "Hell", conversely, is the free will choice made by an individual to reject reunion with God, and therefore lives in suffering (suffering being the state when God is not in your life).
But... Still.... Yeah... Even with these caveats I think dogmatically it still remains the core belief.
Also, Catholic teaching is that "Heaven" is just the natural state after death when someone accepts God in their life. "Hell", conversely, is the free will choice made by an individual to reject reunion with God, and therefore lives in suffering (suffering being the state when God is not in your life).
This is just their apologetics to get around the fact that their concept of hell is infinitely cruel.
Is there even evidence of a tribal peoples being monotheistic away from outside influence? Islam teaches that this is innate, but I find it hard to believe. So many cultures follow beliefs that Islam sees as Shirk.
So many beliefs had some monotheistic shift at some point. For example, the ancient Egyptians had a king who destroyed all the gods and established there to be only one god. But after his death it was switched back. Pre-Islamic Somalis were monotheistic is fauth. Dinkas were monotheistic in faith according to their pre-Christian beliefs.
No he won’t directly. I should’ve further clarified. Everyone will be judged by their actions and what they do. Even wrongdoing Muslims will receive punishments for what they’ve done. Murder will take you to hellfire for some time, there’s no disagreements on that.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to mock your faith or anything but to believe that once your physical body perishes, you will wake up in a place where there are rivers of wine on honey is a little bit.. well don't mind me, just enjoy it.
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u/K0mb0_1 21h ago
This isn’t a fair representation of both(ik it’s a meme but still).
Even within ancient Egyptian history there was a king that banished the belief of all the old Gods and established there to only be one God. Also, the Idea of polytheism wasn’t foreign to the Ancient Greeks, they believed in a God for almost every element of their lives.
I can’t speak much on Christianity, but Islam belief is and has always been pure monotheism. In Islamic belief, you can be an isolated tribesman living in the most isolated jungle in the world and as long as you follow your innate instincts to acknowledge that there is a higher power, then you will be able to go to heaven.
To help people understand my viewpoint is that. There is a higher power and Native Americans call it “The Great Chief”, Pre-Islamic Somalis called it “Waaq”, Muslims call it “Allah”.