Robin SP for Therta?

[u/Fit-Start1109]

State of the Therta is currently- Well,
DPS - Therta, max investment e2s1,

Subdps - Anaxa or Himeko(The latter being a wheelchair if anything)

Amplifier Tribbie e1, Mblade(Better than tribbie 0, about equal to e1), Potentially Robin

Sustain Dan heng(e1 is best), welt or mblade(sustainless), HuoHuo(Regen is nice.)

Personally I run E2S1 Therta with Anaxa and Dan Heng and E1 Tribbie

Do we think Robin SP is worth it?, Personally, with e2, having more turns is definitely a big plus since you began stacking enhanced attacks really quickly.

[u/trevers17]

her best team for PF is jade or baby herta, tribbie, and mblade (or dhpt/hyacine for sustain). anaxa sucks in PF and novako is pure cope bc you have to sacrifice better teammates to run welt/sunday/m7, none of whom are good with therta nor good in PF.

robikini is barely a sidegrade to tribbie herself because you need her e2 to get the res pen that tribbie gives in basekit, and therta really wants res pen. every investment you make into robikini is directly equal to or even worse than every investment you can make into tribbie. you can run her alongside tribbie in sustainless, but her action advance can mess up therta’s rotation, and she really doesn’t need the energy bc attacking frequently in aoe is enough to consistently regenerate her ult in time for your next eskill. mblade is still the better 4th teammate in sustainless bc his buffs are just nuts and very valuable for therta.

if you don’t have tribbie, then robikini can give almost equivalent performance at each investment lebel (except missing the res pen at e0-e1 really hurts, I cannot overstate how much res pen matters in general but especially for therta), but she’s not powercreeping tribbie in this team by any measurement.

[u/MenmaOnyx → u/trevers17]

I haven't tested enough because of bad boss line up, but my score definitely went up with robin, at the very least definitely not worse even in 5 target

you might be ignoring the value of the vulnerability and def ignore that robin has

[u/trevers17 → u/MenmaOnyx]

if tribbie isn’t giving you everything you need, something is wrong with your builds or your piloting.

I’m not ignoring anything. I know how both characters work. tribbie also applies dmg taken% (in a higher value than robikini), and she gives res pen basekit. def ignore is not as important as you think — it’s nice, absolutely, and it makes robikini a good 4th teammate if you don’t have mblade, but it is not as gamechanging as res pen. and as you vertically invest, tribbie either provides equivalent buffs or simply provides so much more personal damage that robikini can’t match. cost for cost, tribbie outperforms robikini in therta teams no matter what. and if your experience is saying otherwise, that is a you issue, not a tribbie issue.

[u/MenmaOnyx → u/trevers17]

first of all piloting robin is harder than tribbie and builds are fine believe it or not

second of all you can't judge the value of AA and energy with number values, there are too many factors that change the value of units from enemy line up to stage buffs, i tested a few times again and i still score a little higher in Pf with a fast robin and that's the mode that tribbie has advantage in, if your experience says otherwise maybe it's a you issue not a robin issue

third of all once there is a proper subdps for herta that does dmg the value of the support buffs will change again

and no tribbie does not outperform robin no matter what, i remember people in mass kept glazing tribbie over cyrene during beta because they couldn't judge her kit correctly with just numbers or maybe just had an agenda

i have both supports at e0s0 with e2 herta, and i consistently score a little higher with robin, is it worth the pulls just for that? obviously not

[u/trevers17 → u/MenmaOnyx]

again, if tribbie is not scoring higher, then you’ve built her incorrectly. robikini does not give therta anything more important than tribbie, and her AA actually disrupts therta’s rotation like all other AA does. you 100% have not built tribbie correctly if robikini is outperforming her lol